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Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said:
She’s definitely the lesser of the evils on that side for sure, her and Tulsi.
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Yea but she has no groundwork laid out in Nevada or SC. Went for broke Iowa,NH, so now she has to wing it.

Democrat party will end up with Bernie as nominee as long as the Mayor,Amy,Bloomburg and Biden stay in race. They split up the moderate pie and Saunders will win with 30 to 35% verse the other 4 splitting the remaining 60%.

Fortunately for ny preference, thats how Trump won the nominee 2016. You had 4 establishment RHINO candidates splitting up that piece of pie every state. Bush,Kasisch,Rubio, lesser extent cruz. Trump coraled all the anti Rhino establishment conservatives, the ole tea party gang and rode off to victory.

Trump has hurricane force wind at his back today. You put him against this Green Deal, No borders Global Socialism agenda and we (MAGA) will smash them come November. The consequences of losing and being goverened by that idealogy will cause even me to grass roots canvass do everything I can to save my country from self destructing.
 
NCSNOW said:
Yea but she has no groundwork laid out in Nevada or SC. Went for broke Iowa,NH, so now she has to wing it.

Democrat party will end up with Bernie as nominee as long as the Mayor,Amy,Bloomburg and Biden stay in race. They split up the moderate pie and Saunders will win with 30 to 35% verse the other 4 splitting the remaining 60%.

Fortunately for ny preference, thats how Trump won the nominee 2016. You had 4 establishment RHINO candidates splitting up that piece of pie every state. Bush,Kasisch,Rubio, lesser extent cruz. Trump coraled all the anti Rhino establishment conservatives, the ole tea party gang and rode off to victory.

Trump has hurricane force wind at his back today. You put him against this Green Deal, No borders Global Socialism agenda and we (MAGA) will smash them come November. The consequences of losing and being goverened by that idealogy will cause even me to grass roots canvass do everything I can to save my country from self destructing.
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At least it shows that they're still moderate Center Democrats against currently they outnumber all of they Bernie Warren votes
 
NCSNOW said:
Yea but she has no groundwork laid out in Nevada or SC. Went for broke Iowa,NH, so now she has to wing it.

Democrat party will end up with Bernie as nominee as long as the Mayor,Amy,Bloomburg and Biden stay in race. They split up the moderate pie and Saunders will win with 30 to 35% verse the other 4 splitting the remaining 60%.

Fortunately for ny preference, thats how Trump won the nominee 2016. You had 4 establishment RHINO candidates splitting up that piece of pie every state. Bush,Kasisch,Rubio, lesser extent cruz. Trump coraled all the anti Rhino establishment conservatives, the ole tea party gang and rode off to victory.

Trump has hurricane force wind at his back today. You put him against this Green Deal, No borders Global Socialism agenda and we (MAGA) will smash them come November. The consequences of losing and being goverened by that idealogy will cause even me to grass roots canvass do everything I can to save my country from self destructing.
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Well said. The longer this drags out for dems the bigger Trump wins in November.
Did anyone see the Biden speech in SC tonight? Brutal.
 
Bham 99 said:
At least it shows that they're still moderate Center Democrats against currently they outnumber all of they Bernie Warren votes
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What others define as moderate Dem, establishment, is still socialism to me.
 
The Dems opened up and welcomed all these radical ideas and groups to their platform for decades in order to build a coalition. The estabishment always had control of them at arms length but not anymore. Now the chickens are coming home to roost as one talk show host put it tonight. The party is in complete panick mode. Eitheir they stop Bernie by super Tuesday by getti g behind one candidate, rig up rules at convention to stop him or get behind him as their nominee. Time is up in just a few weeks.
 
NCSNOW said:
The Dems opened up and welcomed all these radical ideas and groups to their platform for decades in order to build a coalition. The estabishment always had control of them at arms length but not anymore. Now the chickens are coming home to roost as one talk show host put it tonight. The party is in complete panick mode. Eitheir they stop Bernie by super Tuesday by getti g behind one candidate, rig up rules at convention to stop him or get behind him as their nominee. Time is up in just a few weeks.
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And if Bernie is the nominee he crushes Trump in the election popular vote. More people will want a socialist over trump.
 
Shaggy said:
And if Bernie is the nominee he crushes Trump in the election popular vote. More people will want a socialist over trump.
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More people in California and New York will want a socialist over Trump. Fixed your sentence for you.
Heck even some of the democrats running for president don’t want a socialist.
 
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said:
More people in California and New York will want a socialist over Trump. Fixed your sentence for you.
Heck even some of the democrats running for president don’t want a socialist.
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We'll see what happens in the midwest swing states should Sanders win the nomination. I wouldn't be so sure. Hell even Trump ain't. He has time and time again mentioned that Sanders is the toughest to beat.
 
whatitdo said:
We'll see what happens in the midwest swing states should Sanders win the nomination. I wouldn't be so sure. Hell even Trump ain't. He has time and time again mentioned that Sanders is the toughest to beat.
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It’ll be a tough message to sell to folks that this economy just benefits Wall Street and the 1% like Bernie keeps saying. That’s tough to run on with the way the economy is, especially in those rust belt states.
 
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said:
It’ll be a tough message to sell to folks that this economy just benefits Wall Street and the 1% like Bernie keeps saying. That’s tough to run on with the way the economy is, especially in those rust belt states.
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The economy can go south at any minute and the longer the issues in China go on the thinner the ice gets.
 
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said:
It’ll be a tough message to sell to folks that this economy just benefits Wall Street and the 1% like Bernie keeps saying. That’s tough to run on with the way the economy is, especially in those rust belt states.
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The bottom half of the country make as much as the top 3 people. The income inequality gap is the highest it's ever been and working class/lower middle class families are starting to question if this reality should really be their reality. People are dying because they can't afford prescription medications. Student debt is crippling the young generation. If you don't think many Americans won't embrace the idea that these issues are messed up, you may want to think closer about demographics and who makes up the majority of this country. The only reason we're not seeing a tremendous backing behind Sanders right now is because the democratic media corporations are doing their absolute best in preventing him from winning through misinformation and bias. The only way they have a shot against Trump, is if their whole party revolutionizes and goes against the establishment. How long did it take for Republicans to embrace Trump? It's a similar pattern that Trump utilized in 2016.
 
whatitdo said:
The bottom half of the country make as much as the top 3 people. The income inequality gap is the highest it's ever been and working class/lower middle class families are starting to question if this reality should really be their reality. People are dying because they can't afford prescription medications. Student debt is crippling the young generation. If you don't think many Americans won't embrace the idea that these issues are messed up, you may want to think closer about demographics and who makes up the majority of this country. The only reason we're not seeing a tremendous backing behind Sanders right now is because the democratic media corporations are doing their absolute best in preventing him from winning through misinformation and bias. The only way they have a shot against Trump, is if their whole party revolutionizes and goes against the establishment. How long did it take for Republicans to embrace Trump? It's a similar pattern that Trump utilized in 2016.
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A big reason you’re not seeing a coalition around Sanders is because every policy and reform he puts forth he doesn’t have a price tag on it. Anyone that is halfway fiscally minded is not going to be rushing to the ballot box to vote Bernie. I know he keeps mentioning “cancelling” student debt but at the end of the day someone has to pay for that and that will be the tax payers. So anyone who doesn’t want to see taxes go up that’s another strike for them on Bernie.
 
NCSNOW said:
The Dems opened up and welcomed all these radical ideas and groups to their platform for decades in order to build a coalition. The estabishment always had control of them at arms length but not anymore. Now the chickens are coming home to roost as one talk show host put it tonight. The party is in complete panick mode. Eitheir they stop Bernie by super Tuesday by getti g behind one candidate, rig up rules at convention to stop him or get behind him as their nominee. Time is up in just a few weeks.
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NCSNOW said:
Yea but she has no groundwork laid out in Nevada or SC. Went for broke Iowa,NH, so now she has to wing it.

Democrat party will end up with Bernie as nominee as long as the Mayor,Amy,Bloomburg and Biden stay in race. They split up the moderate pie and Saunders will win with 30 to 35% verse the other 4 splitting the remaining 60%.

Fortunately for ny preference, thats how Trump won the nominee 2016. You had 4 establishment RHINO candidates splitting up that piece of pie every state. Bush,Kasisch,Rubio, lesser extent cruz. Trump coraled all the anti Rhino establishment conservatives, the ole tea party gang and rode off to victory.

Trump has hurricane force wind at his back today. You put him against this Green Deal, No borders Global Socialism agenda and we (MAGA) will smash them come November. The consequences of losing and being goverened by that idealogy will cause even me to grass roots canvass do everything I can to save my country from self destructing.
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You are right that the chickens are coming home to roost for the democratic party in the sense that they have to embrace the ideology they let seep through. However, I think the socialism attacks at Bernie are overplayed. FDR paired with Henry Wallace, an avowed socialist, and FDR himself was a far-left candidate who won four consecutive elections in landslides. Truman advocated universal healthcare, and won his second term handily. Eisenhower by today's standards would have been called a socialist. He refused to ever sign a single cut to any entitlement and I quote said, "Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security, unemployment insurance, eliminate labor laws, and farm programs you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group of course that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." JFK attempted to pass universal healthcare but was impeded by Southern Democrats. Lyndon Johnson passed Medicare and Medicaid. Universal healthcare for seniors and the poor. Some Republicans back then called them far-left socialists. But the far left won then. Don't be so sure they won't win now.
 
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