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Shaggy said:
NC tobacco farmers have been hit hard and arent eligible for any if the bailout money. The fact trumps having to bail out anyone kind of proves the point that people are suffering to some extent.

NC exports went from 162M down to a measly 4M. Horrible drop.

https://businessnc.com/tariffs-hit-tobacco-growers-hard/
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I know tobacco farmers, grain farmers, pig farmers and chicken farmers. Not a single one is suffering from Trump policies. Liberal environmental policies yes.....
 
Wildboutsnow said:
I have never said that someone should not be held accountable for their actions. We all want truth and a clean less corrupted system. There has to be proof and agreement on both sides and we don't have either. People are tired of chasing the crimes for 3 years. Until there is proof there is no way this president or any other president should be removed. There is no way we can even get to the truth without fair trials and court. Witnesses, testimony, the way our system works fairly I mean. I believe it's coming and people will be held accountable but I just don't believe it's Trump. My opinion.
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Yeah they are tired of the president constantly breaking the law and ethics rules with his behavior, and then basically telling Congress and the citizens to piss off he is untouchable because the president cant be held accountable. You guys keep harping about proof but ignore all of it.....the Mueller report, the dozens of people saying Trump withheld aid to force Ukraine to go after Biden, paying off porn stars, fleecing the taxpayer by funneling money into his own pocket through his hotels etc....and thats just some of it, throw in obstruction of justice at every turn and the only real surprise is how he has managed to avoided accountability for these actions for 3 years....
 
Sandbar said:
I know tobacco farmers, grain farmers, pig farmers and chicken farmers. Not a single one is suffering from Trump policies. Liberal environmental policies yes.....
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Well yeah because the US government thru subsidies ( aka socialism ) has pd over 100 million dollars to NC farmers thru last summer to make up for the losses from the impact of Trumps tariffs.....so the farmers get pd regardless for the most part, of course the money is coming from taxes instead of the Chinese. The total tariff subsides paid to US farmers over the last few years has exceeded 20 BILLION taxpayer dollars....
 
Downeastnc said:
Yeah they are tired of the president constantly breaking the law and ethics rules with his behavior, and then basically telling Congress and the citizens to piss off he is untouchable because the president cant be held accountable. You guys keep harping about proof but ignore all of it.....the Mueller report, the dozens of people saying Trump withheld aid to force Ukraine to go after Biden, paying off porn stars, fleecing the taxpayer by funneling money into his own pocket through his hotels etc....and thats just some of it, throw in obstruction of justice at every turn and the only real surprise is how he has managed to avoided accountability for these actions for 3 years....
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Wow, that's a bold statement. I actually think you believe it.
Guys, our president will not be impeached, even if the House votes yes. The Senate will hold a fair trial and they will most definitely vote no. I can make up any story I want as to why he asked the Ukraine president to launch an investigation. However, there is no proof of a crime only the suspicion of a crime. This will not stand up in any American court. If you were to ask me, with a gun to my head, "Do you think he was really wanting to expose dirt on his rival"?..... I would answer, "It is within the realm of possibilities"..... But when all is said and done, it will be just my opinion and not a fact. Even a serial killer or a rapist will not be convicted without firm/undisputed evidence which proves beyond a "reasonable doubt" that he/she committed that crime. In this case, there is plenty of reasonable doubt....
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
Wow, that's a bold statement. I actually think you believe it.
Guys, our president will not be impeached, even if the House votes yes. The Senate will hold a fair trial and they will most definitely vote no. I can make up any story I want as to why he asked the Ukraine president to launch an investigation. However, there is no proof of a crime only the suspicion of a crime. This will not stand up in any American court. If you were to ask me, with a gun to my head, "Do you think he was really wanting to expose dirt on his rival"?..... I would answer, "It is within the realm of possibilities"..... But when all is said and done, it will be just my opinion and not a fact. Even a serial killer or a rapist will not be convicted without firm/undisputed evidence which proves beyond a "reasonable doubt" that he/she committed that crime. In this case, there is plenty of reasonable doubt....
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Of course he won’t be convicted, senate is full of his supporters who would not see a crime if it happened in front of then.
 
Sandbar said:
You live in a country where a someone like Bill Clinton was elected, a man like Barack Obama was elected twice and Hillary Clinton was almost elected. It shouldnt suprise you in the least. The economy may be stagnant in your neighborhood but for most it actually is doing quite well
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I respect your opioion.
 
Flurry said:
Or 2nd or 3rd.....There's a long list


LOL...You've GOT to be kidding....Right????
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What's threre to kid about does anybody on this thread get there info other than fox cnn radio show ECT probley not that's what's wrong all y'all say oh trumps got the economy rolling well weres the proof all he's done is talk smack and cut taxes for the rich. I'm a southern conservative democrat yess we do exist America is not as divided as it seems people with common sense are moderate not radical left or right.
 
ForsythSnow said:
What I don't get is why you keep on going saying that holding someone accountable for their actions means you hate them. That's not what it means at all. It means that from what him and many others see, Trump may have violated the law and was caught doing so. It would go for any other president. Have you ever heard of Grantism? I was taught this in us history in 11th grade and it basically states that corruption in an administration, tied to the president or not, occurs about every 50 or so years. Watergate was about that long ago only short a few years. At the time my teacher made the prediction that whoever the president would be in this term would possibly face a corrupt administration and sure enough we are having it. Either angle, from trump ousting a lot of his cabinet he picked himself to trump himself and the Ukraine situation, there has to have been corruption from someone that was caught.

Yes Trump was duly elected, but Trump nor anyone is above the law. There also is a lot of bad info out there from websites that create and fester poor ideals and conspiracies to brainwash people into being a political zombie. This is the stuff I really worry about.
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Its scary how some people believe anything they read without doing their research.
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
Wow, that's a bold statement. I actually think you believe it.
Guys, our president will not be impeached, even if the House votes yes. The Senate will hold a fair trial and they will most definitely vote no. I can make up any story I want as to why he asked the Ukraine president to launch an investigation. However, there is no proof of a crime only the suspicion of a crime. This will not stand up in any American court. If you were to ask me, with a gun to my head, "Do you think he was really wanting to expose dirt on his rival"?..... I would answer, "It is within the realm of possibilities"..... But when all is said and done, it will be just my opinion and not a fact. Even a serial killer or a rapist will not be convicted without firm/undisputed evidence which proves beyond a "reasonable doubt" that he/she committed that crime. In this case, there is plenty of reasonable doubt....
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It's really not a bold statement at all, the evidence all points to the president extorting/bribing the Ukrainian government by withholding the aid and access to get them to announce a investigation into Biden. You can act like there is no proof of a crime all you want, luckily for Trump impeachment is a political process not a criminal one. There is a reason Trump wont participate in the process and why they are claiming executive privilege to keep Mulvaney, Bolton, Pompeo, Rudy etc from testifying.....if there is no crime then why not let these guys come before the inquiry and blow the Dems out of the water with the facts that show the president did nothing wrong instead of hiding behind executive privilege....I think deep down everyone knows why. If Trump had exculpatory evidence and could make the Dems look like fools he would trust me.
 
I'm sorry y'all I have as much passion for this country as the next man were all Americans not dems or repuplicans. I saw a man in town with a bumper sticker it said (Your either a Republican or your unamerican......as a vet that's further from the truth...
 
Mcdowell_weather said:
I'm sorry y'all I have as much passion for this country as the next man were all Americans not dems or repuplicans. I saw a man in town with a bumper sticker it said (Your either a Republican or your unamerican......as a vet that's further from the truth...
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I'd love to see Kasich start a new center right party. The country averages center right from what I understand and that happens to be where I am. Call it the "American Party".
 
It's in the details my paw always told me. We all have a lot in common even immigration and gun control on some level.
 
GaWx said:
I'd love to see Kasich start a new center right party. The country averages center right from what I understand and that happens to be where I am. Call it the "American Party".
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Unfortunately that name is already taken....I agree on Kasich, he got my vote in the primaries and I was very close to writing his name in but decided to vote 3rd party to drive those numbers up so the main parties see we have other options.....

There are lots of conservatives that act farther right than they really are right now since Trump and the wingers run the party, there are a lot of Tea Party types that have moved center like Haley, Lee, Sasse etc....the GOP has hitched itself to the wrong horse who is now running full speed at the cliff and intends to take everyone over with him.....they need to cut the reins and soon....sadly I dont think that is going to happen though.
 
Mcdowell_weather said:
What's threre to kid about does anybody on this thread get there info other than fox cnn radio show ECT probley not that's what's wrong all y'all say oh trumps got the economy rolling well weres the proof all he's done is talk smack and cut taxes for the rich. I'm a southern conservative democrat yess we do exist America is not as divided as it seems people with common sense are moderate not radical left or right.
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When the American people can only go to basically one station for informative, trustworthy news
SoutheastRidge said:
Its scary how some people believe anything they read without doing their research.
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LOL...Sounds a lot like the DEMS....The DEMS & liberal main stream media spew crap all the time expecting the American people to believe what they are saying is true...Most of the people I know don't even watch that trash anymore...They know it's all being spun to benefit the liberal DEMS...Hard to find truthful news anymore
 
GaWx said:
I'd love to see Kasich start a new center right party. The country averages center right from what I understand and that happens to be where I am. Call it the "American Party".
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That would be interesting to say the least. While Trump is the loud mouthed AW, Kasich would live in Super Weenie Hut.
 
Downeastnc said:
Unfortunately that name is already taken....I agree on Kasich, he got my vote in the primaries and I was very close to writing his name in but decided to vote 3rd party to drive those numbers up so the main parties see we have other options.....

There are lots of conservatives that act farther right than they really are right now since Trump and the wingers run the party, there are a lot of Tea Party types that have moved center like Haley, Lee, Sasse etc....the GOP has hitched itself to the wrong horse who is now running full speed at the cliff and intends to take everyone over with him.....they need to cut the reins and soon....sadly I dont think that is going to happen though.
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Over the cliff? Really? If Obama didnt take us over I think were gonna be ok. At least most of us are gonna be ok. You and a few others I'm not so sure about. You seem to be driving your own self over intentionally!
 
Sandbar said:
Over the cliff? Really? If Obama didnt take us over I think were gonna be ok. At least most of us are gonna be ok. You and a few others I'm not so sure about. You seem to be driving your own self over intentionally!
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Why would Obama take us over a cliff?
 
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