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Learning Model Discussion 2/9-2/10

Cary_Snow95 said:
Surface maps are kind of useless, you need to be looking at H5 which shows a different solution than 6z. It's quite a bit different
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I do look at H5 maps, yes, it was different in the upper air. Looking at surface maps are important too because looking for the fronts is just as important as H5.

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NorthGAWinterWx said:
I do look at H5 maps, yes, it was different in the upper air. Looking at surface maps are important too because looking for the fronts is just as important as H5.

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what happens at the surface is 100 percebt a product of what happens at H5 . That's why H5 maps are all that really matter

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I use a combination of surface maps and H5. I'm not going to sit here and waste time on debating at what to look at. Others have a different way at viewing things. Besides, you can't just look at H5, it's good to have a good practice at looking at surface and upper air to see what's going on below H5. Going back on topic.....

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This storm was really never a thing outside TN, NC. Just a couple okay runs with temp issues for those further South or West.
 
Storm5 said:
what happens at the surface is 100 percebt a product of what happens at H5 . That's why H5 maps are all that really matter

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That's not necessarily true. Actually it's not true at all. Surface features and H5 features affect each other all the time. A low often strengthens a trough. A cold core high can form under both a ridge and trough. It can be blazing hot under a trough or cold under a ridge. They affect each other. H5 is not always an end all solution. Also, H3 has a huge impact on cyclogenesis.


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bouncycorn said:
That's not necessarily true. Actually it's not true at all. Surface features and H5 features affect each other all the time. A low often strengthens a trough. A cold core high can form under both a ridge and trough. It can be blazing hot under a trough or cold under a ridge. They affect each other. H5 is not always an end all solution. Also, H3 has a huge impact on cyclogenesis.


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Thank you bouncycorn! Looking at H5 is not always important, specially trying to determine winter weather.

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Storm5 said:
12z gefs horribly

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e18 ftw. This shows what can happen if that energy holds back a little like the 12z gfs (but not as much, and ejects a bit quicker) and then digs as if should. Would be a suppressed system. 1 out of 20 members isn't bad. Haha kidding.
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SD said:
Hold on...so am I reading that 500mb isn't relevant when it comes to weather and the surface is more important?

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No, your reading that the NAM looks good! And no matter what the 500mb pattern looks like, we gonna torch! :(
 
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