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Pattern Microwave March

SD said:
Not a bad run of the GFS at all but I would have a hard time trusting a clipper in March
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It's March, you never know what could happen, including the storms not even happening. Looks a bit more interesting since something is showing up multiple runs in a row, but I won't buy a ticket for the train yet.
 
I'll take every little bit of snow I can get. Even if we don't get snow I have to say I'm quite happy to see below normal temps showing up for late February into early march.

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This is one wild temperature swing on Friday ( 78 deg ) to Saturday ( 45 deg ) that I'm looking forward to.

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k0skinne said:
March 24, 1983 -- Started overnight and continued most of morning. Tapered off in early afternoon as I remember. About 8 inches at my house. (Carrollton GA) Of course, it was pretty heavy (not moderate to light) and it was very cloudy (not snow, then clear, then cloudy again and snow, etc. as sometimes can happen.) Don't care to debate it, sun angle does matter, but other factors can sometimes even overwhelm that. I don't remember how long it stayed around, probably was gone in two days. It was one of the heaviest snows we have ever had, including March 1993.
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Got 7 plus out of that one, and had two ull's come down and drop over 4 inches during the day in late March two or three years apart within the last 12 years. In my 70 years I've seen snow in March over and over. I remember snow in early April. That's why I never give up on winter until Easter, though I'm mostly done by April Fools day, lol. Snow doesn't care where the sun is, as long as it's falling hard enough, and long enough, and it's at least freezing near the ground....it'll stick, though a foot of snow will end up being 5 inches on your snow board, lol. T
 
Shawn said:
Here is how we are going to get screwed. This is an EPS member from 00z. If there is a storm, this will definitely happen to us: (notice even the OBX get screwed as the snow does its best to curve around.)

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Yep, troughs who's center is off the east coast just don't seem conducive to deep south cold, lol. Maybe Larry gets cold, and ships at sea, lol. I'd kind of like to see that trough set up back west aways, so we aren't always getting the drive by cool air instead of the deep freeze :) T
 
Question of the day, it seems:

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... need a driver, and a couple of the indices might provide one ...
 
pcbjr said:
Who wouldn't (?) - it's just some folks don't translate 850 to surface, so I was making a point without saying so ... LOL ;)
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I'm assuming you are referring to the map I posted of the fantasy snow blob at hour 300 on the 12z gfs. Who knows maybe you weren't and it's fine if you were because god knows I am not near as weather knowledgeable as you and many others on here. I am however aware that the map I posted was not showing freezing temps at the surface even for my area. I was really only posting it for fun as we haven't had much winter to talk of this season. Heck even if it was showing a blizzard and 20 below it's still 300 hours out and we all know how that usually goes.
 
olhausen said:
I'm assuming you are referring to the map I posted of the fantasy snow blob at hour 300 on the 12z gfs. Who knows maybe you weren't and it's fine if you were because god knows I am not near as weather knowledgeable as you and many others on here. I am however aware that the map I posted was not showing freezing temps at the surface even for my area. I was really only posting it for fun as we haven't had much winter to talk of this season. Heck even if it was showing a blizzard and 20 below it's still 300 hours out and we all know how that usually goes.
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NOOOOO - I was responding to a map SD posted and making a very narrow point about the difference between 850 and surface temps (something some folks don't always recognize and I was pointing out for edification purposes only, before the :weenie:'s started a beer party on the corner).

As far as my weather knowledge - I used to watch Ms. Penny on Channel 4 in Jax when I was 5, and I'm sure Ms. Penny knew more about weather than I ever will ("Children, it's cold outside - bundle up"). I just love weather, learning, and sharing what few p-nuts I have ;) ..
then I go do what I do well - which is another topic altogether ...
Best!
Phil
 
pcbjr said:
NOOOOO - I was responding to a map SD posted and making a very narrow point about the difference between 850 and surface temps (something some folks don't always recognize and I was pointing out for edification purposes only, before the :weenie:'s started a beer party on the corner).

As far as my weather knowledge - I used to watch Ms. Penny on Channel 4 in Jax when I was 5, and I'm sure Ms. Penny knew more about weather than I ever will ("Children, it's cold outside - bundle up"). I just love weather, learning, and sharing what few p-nuts I have ;) ..
then I go do what I do well - which is another topic altogether ...
Best!
Phil
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I just want to say that I wasn't mad at all and I welcome you or anyone else to point out if I've made a mistake or posted something that was false. I love weather just as most do who frequent this site and I always love learning new stuff about it. I figured maybe you weren't posting that in reply to my post but I thought I'd throw it out there just in case.

For me moving to Nashville from San Diego is what got me into the weather. I never knew I was interested in it before that because 75 and sunny all year was all I knew for the first 26 years of my life lol. I saw more thunderstorms in my first summer in Tennessee then I had seen in my entire life in San Diego. I was actually terrified of the first T storms I experienced in Nashville and automatically thought tornadoes were coming. I had no clue back then about the spc outlook or anything else weather wise. My fear quickly turned to curiosity and so I started my love of weather. And of course nothing beat seeing snow In my front yard for the very first time!
 
olhausen said:
. I just want to say that I wasn't mad at all and I welcome you or anyone else to point out if I've made a mistake or posted something that was false. I love weather just as most do who frequent this site and I always love learning new stuff about it. I figured maybe you weren't posting that in reply to my post but I thought I'd throw it out there just in case.

For me moving to Nashville from San Diego is what got me into the weather. I never knew I was interested in it before that because 75 and sunny all year was all I knew for the first 26 years of my life lol. I saw more thunderstorms in my first summer in Tennessee then I had seen in my entire life in San Diego. I was actually terrified of the first T storms I experienced in Nashville and automatically thought tornadoes were coming. I had no clue back then about the spc outlook or anything else weather wise. My fear quickly turned to curiosity and so I started my love of weather. And of course nothing beat seeing snow In my front yard for the very first time!
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Welcome to the South! Now on to weather and to discussion when work permits!

PS - You want T-storms to rock your day - get down to N FL in July - you'll be under the couch !!! ;)

at least you get snow - LOL
 
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Why can't RDU get more storms like this. Wake Forest hit the jackpot w/ 8" and this was the only winter storm in the entire month, even the mountains got shutout in Feb 1913...
 
Webb other than the obvious ones on the RAH past events page what do you have for March storms? Just wondering about dates

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SD said:
Webb other than the obvious ones on the RAH past events page what do you have for March storms? Just wondering about dates

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There are a butload of them...

Here's just a few I'm currently analyzing &/or you've already seen that produced a decent amount of wintry weather east of the mountains. There are probably a few more I'm missing here but yea there's a lot... I threw in the RAH Past Events archive events to make things a little more convenient if you're trying to come up w/ a list of dates
March 1 2015 (I've analyzed this storm, but it's not listed in RAH Past Events archive)
March 17-18 2014 (RAH Past Events)
March 6-7 2014 (RAH Past Events)
March 3-4 2014 (RAH Past Events)
March 28 2011 (RAH Past Events)
March 2-3 2010 (RAH Past Events)
March 1-2 2009 (RAH Past Events)
March 16-17 2005 (RAH Past Events)
March 30 2003 (RAH Past Events)
March 21 2001 (RAH Past Events)
March 12-14 1993 (RAH Past Events)
March 24-25 1983 (RAH Past Events)
March 22-23 1981 (RAH Past Events)
March 1-3 1980 (RAH Past events)
March 1-3 1978
March 25-26 1971
February 28-March 2 1969
March 16 1960
March 11-12 1960
March 9-10 1960
March 2-4 1960
March 26-28 1947
March 2-3 1942
March 13-14 1941
March 24-25 1940
March 10-11 1934
March 1-3 1927
March 13-14 1926
March 10-12 1926
March 30-31 1915
March 11-12 1914
March 24 1896
March 13 1896


In total, since 1895 I have 140 March storms lined up, a majority of them are light-moderate events confined to the mountains only, but there are plenty of legit ones over the Piedmont and coastal plain.
 
Webberweather53 said:
There are a butload of them...

Here's just a few I'm currently analyzing &/or you've already seen that produced a decent amount of wintry weather east of the mountains. There are probably a few more I'm missing here but yea there's a lot... I threw in the RAH Past Events archive events to make things a little more convenient if you're trying to come up w/ a list of dates
March 1 2015 (I've analyzed this storm, but it's not listed in RAH Past Events archive)
March 17-18 2014 (RAH Past Events)
March 6-7 2014 (RAH Past Events)
March 3-4 2014 (RAH Past Events)
March 28 2011 (RAH Past Events)
March 2-3 2010 (RAH Past Events)
March 1-2 2009 (RAH Past Events)
March 16-17 2005 (RAH Past Events)
March 30 2003 (RAH Past Events)
March 21 2001 (RAH Past Events)
March 12-14 1993 (RAH Past Events)
March 24-25 1983 (RAH Past Events)
March 22-23 1981 (RAH Past Events)
March 1-3 1980 (RAH Past events)
March 1-3 1978
March 25-26 1971
February 28-March 2 1969
March 16 1960
March 11-12 1960
March 9-10 1960
March 2-4 1960
March 26-28 1947
March 2-3 1942
March 13-14 1941
March 24-25 1940
March 10-11 1934
March 1-3 1927
March 13-14 1926
March 10-12 1926
March 30-31 1915
March 11-12 1914
March 24 1896
March 13 1896


In total, since 1895 I have 140 March storms lined up, a majority of them are light-moderate events confined to the mountains only, but there are plenty of legit ones over the Piedmont and coastal plain.
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is all this archived here in a link/thread? if so, i missed it and where; if not - we need one ...
 
pcbjr said:
is all this archived here in a link/thread? if so, i missed it and where; if not - we need one ...
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I'm glad you asked. Yeah, I'm actually in the process of putting a preliminary archive together so everyone here can view all the winter storms I've analyzed thus far and plan to post it here within the next week or so. Even still, although this archive is going to be gargantuan, it will only represent a small fraction of all the winter storms that have struck NC in the last 125 years or so.I just want to get some of the big dogs out of the way and put out there asap.
 
I was gonna wait to post this but I honestly could not resist the temptation. Given the climatology of the area that was affected and the time of the year, this is by far the craziest storm I've come across in looking at the last century or so of data in NC. I can't seriously believe this actually happened, it's very hard to fathom how hard the snow must have been falling to accumulate like this in the tidewater region. I know many complain about the sun angle, lack of cold air, warm ground temps, etc even during the heart of the cold season but that's nothing compared to what southeastern NC had to get thru to see significant accumulating snow out of this storm. Kust imagine how improbable a storm like this was for areas well southeast of Raleigh who see a storm like this perhaps only a few times per decade (or less), but to have it in mid-April?! What in the world...
Accumulating snow on the southeastern beaches of NC in mid-April? 4-5 inches of snow in Beaufort, Washington, & Chowan counties? No problem...
I'm actually very surprised NWS RAH &/or Newport/Morehead City has yet to analyze this one because a storm like this is an extremely rare event (even in a 19th-early 20th century-esque climate) and it absolutely boggles my mind, certainly deserves appreciably more publicity in the local meteorological community. Just goes to show you, winter is truly not over until the fat lady sings...
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Webberweather53 said:
I was gonna wait to post this but I honestly could not resist the temptation. Given the climatology of the area that was affected and the time of the year, this is by far the craziest storm I've come across in looking at the last century or so of data in NC. I can't seriously believe this actually happened, it's very hard to fathom how hard the snow must have been falling to accumulate like this in the tidewater region. I know many complain about the sun angle, lack of cold air, warm ground temps, etc even during the heart of the cold season but that's nothing compared to what southeastern NC had to get thru to see significant accumulating snow out of this storm. Kust imagine how improbable a storm like this was for areas well southeast of Raleigh who see a storm like this perhaps only a few times per decade (or less), but to have it in mid-April?! What in the world...
Accumulating snow on the southeastern beaches of NC in mid-April? 4-5 inches of snow in Beaufort, Washington, & Chowan counties? No problem...
I'm actually very surprised NWS RAH &/or Newport/Morehead City has yet to analyze this one because a storm like this is an extremely rare event (even in a 19th-early 20th century-esque climate) and it absolutely boggles my mind, certainly deserves appreciably more publicity in the local meteorological community. Just goes to show you, winter is truly not over until the fat lady sings...
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I would be shocked if that snow fell during the afternoon with a mid April Sun angle. I'm guessing it had to be a night or early morning event
 
I was looking at the 0z EPS and at the end of the run, it has cold air coming in after the moisture is gone, figures. But, the good thing, we're still more than 5 days away.

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