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Tropical Major Hurricane Helene

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That band on the east

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That's the one I'm watching where I live. In about thirty minutes my residence will start feeling the effects from that. It's time to batten down the hatches.
 
The effects were well predicted by the NHC and various NWS offices. People are paying too much attention to where the center of circulation is far inland.
lol no shot. The NHC wind graphics had Atlanta at a 90-100% chance to see sustained 1-minute tropical storm force winds of 39+ mph.

The airport GUSTED to 43mph only once.
 
That's the one I'm watching where I live. In about thirty minutes my residence will start feeling the effects from that. It's time to batten down the hatches.
HRRR has been all over that line since yesterday. It should have some good 40-50 mph gust in there for you
 
If anything, the first forecast track issued when the system was a PTC was more accurate than a lot of the subsequent forecast tracks:

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Yep, they had it under control until after this point. I can tell you that from now on, I'll trust the HWRF and HMON when it conflicts with NHC.
 
Thank goodness that squall line is not segmented like the HRRR was showing greatly reducing the tornado threat.


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Looks like it's gonna try to do that though as it moves east
 
SEPT. 27, 2024 - Swift water rescues underway in the Biltmore Village area of Asheville.

Swannanoa River at Biltmore, NC - 03451000​

September 20, 2024 - September 27, 2024
Gage height, feet
18.24 ft - Sep 27, 2024 08:45:00 AM EDT < --- possible a new record
USGS - science for a changing world


Swannanoa River at Biltmore, NC - 03451000​

September 20, 2024 - September 27, 2024
Gage height, feet
22.08 ft - Sep 27, 2024 10:30:00 AM EDT < --- -almost 4' higher since last report. I have to believe that Biltmore Village and Biltmore Forest are under water at this time. New Record -
USGS - science for a changing world
 
lol no shot. The NHC wind graphics had Atlanta at a 90-100% chance to see sustained 1-minute tropical storm force winds of 39+ mph.

The airport GUSTED to 43mph only once.
That's great, I'm glad they didn't experience them. Now show me where in SC or NC didn't have appropriate warnings and watches ahead of time.
 
Umm..no.


In this case..because of the extreme forward speed it made a huge difference which side of the eye you were on. But again getting some aspects of a storm wrong comes with the territory but ignoring good model agreement without even explaining why isn't cool imo. I would imagine if you asked folks in augusta and the western Carolinas if they got what they expected it wouldn't be yes.

And BTW this isn't a criticism of gsp...as usual they did a great job. They were put in a tough spot honestly with the nhc insisting the track would be near Atlanta and not the savannah river and they did the best they could stressing high impacts. Ffc could have done better..they too were in a tough spot but gsp had higher wind forecasts in their western counties than ffc did in their eastern counties.
You've made my point for me. FFC and GSP did a good job making predictions for their areas and giving people the opportunity to prepare.
 

Catawba River near Pleasant Gardens (Near Resistoflex)​

Last updated: Sep 27, 2024, 8:58 AM EDT

Current 16.24' - Record stands at 17.6' - this will be making a run for a new all time record.

2" short of the all time record - I believe its going to shatter the old record of 17.6'

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I am not usually one to be negative to the forecasters but this time they blew it big time. They absolutely did NOT accurately predict the effects for millions of people and nearly two complete states. This was a huge huge fail. We were noticing the models and track the nhc flat out ignore it. Instead of TN it is in eastern NC. Same with the NWS. Millions of people were affected by this total fail in their local forecast.
I'm sorry but this post is just false in so many ways, its difficult to describe how wrong every sentence you just typed is.
 
Safe to say the forecast track is questionable and warrants discussion but can we hold off on the debate until this system is over for everyone or at least take it to banter please, thanks
Bump, please and thank you
 

Swannanoa River at Biltmore, NC - 03451000​

September 20, 2024 - September 27, 2024
Gage height, feet
22.08 ft - Sep 27, 2024 10:30:00 AM EDT < --- -almost 4' higher since last report. I have to believe that Biltmore Village and Biltmore Forest are under water at this time. New Record -
USGS - science for a changing world

Looks like it is forecast to crest at 27 feet. That is scary!
 
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