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Wintry Machine Learning Mauler 1/30-2/1

Tracking for my areas to the NW/West of ATL...ready to get my hopes destroyed
18z GEFS had about 11 - 20 members with measurable 1 inch snow around West parts of GA all modest/decent hits
12z GEFS had about 8 - 20 members but a few big ones across the SE as a whole
I do believe with all of the energy associated with the base of the vort max, the short-range models will probably pick up a lot more light snow showers and flurries across the area as long as there is sufficient low level cloud cover. These types of setups with the base of a vort max can sometimes produce quick heavy snow showers/squalls that can produce localized accumulations, but the much colder and drier air might be a limiting factor (although snowfall ratios can help some with this if sublimation can be overcome).
 
Well the writing was on the wall for that storm with the track of the storm and warm nose. This storm doesn’t have that


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According to the GFS, the writing wasn't on the wall here and there wouldn't be a big warm nose, at least not before it was actually happening and it finally caved to other modeling with a cutter. That is what I'm referring to. There was another event earlier this winter where it wouldn't back off giving my area 4-5 inches, it ended up being around an half an inch.

For some reason, this winter it's showing wildly different outcomes than other modeling and it never catches on. The wildly different outcomes seem to be caused by 75-100 mile differences at with vorts at 500mb, those mistakes cause it to ripple way off downstream and it seems to struggle to get out of the ditch once it's there.

I'd be so happy if it were remotely correct here, but I'll be extremely shocked if it is.
 
That one worked out Iredell / Rowan And N/W …. I had a friend in Stanly and remember the Hrrr starting nailing that sharp cutoff basically cutting Meck/Cabarrus in 1/2 he didn’t believe it…. Welp go look at Webbers Site lol


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Oh yeah. I was forcasted 5-8 inches 24 hours out and ended up with a .3” of ice and .5” of snow
 
Kirk Mellish with a brief look at which models did best with the last storm. But he barely mentions the AI ones.

 
Yall say what you want, yea it’s stupid …. But if memory serves me well …. It does I have screenshots galore of last weeks “event”. GFS was hell bent on Piedmont getting mammoth Sleet and less ice and was further South ect even if it did slide slightly a bit. I’m sorry but Canadian from like 4.5 days out when amped first then GFS came South first and then remained there. IMO, it’s not as far fetched as yall like to say. This ain’t 2015 anymore EURO is getting closer to a has been and GFS is The gunslinger that may occasionally get you a win but he’s gonna throw 3 interceptions doing it. ESPECIALLY, if EURO slides back west I think some things need to change opinion wise bc with my own two eyes I would’ve seen EURO bounce around dramatically while GFS looked stupid but stayed with it


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18z aifs at 84 hours. Loading a bomb
 
AIGFS is a Charlotte to GSP nuke with the upper level low View attachment 190143

Yeah you can kinda see that double snow/precip maxima I was talking about earlier. A lot of times this can screw over places like Raleigh, but still a ton of time left to hash out the details
 
That's one heck of a snow mean!
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As one of the few Sandhill representatives here, I think we'd take that and go home happy.
For folks elsewhere, y'all don't know how pleasant it is not to have to worry about the dreaded warm nose, the Kali of snow hops in this neck of the woods.
 
I wrote about the storm. Nothing in here you guys don't know about. When you have so many outcomes on the table, there's not enough time to drill down. My lean is negative, which may already be void if i'm looking at the 18z correctly. Whatever.

 
Imho, given the presence of the upper low here as well as a upstate SC mesolow, (which is a climatological feature we tend to see in a lot of snow events), the floor for this storm is probably higher in places like Charlotte and Greensboro back into the Western Piedmont of NC. There’s more pathways you can get a least a sizable/moderate event out there

For the eastern Piedmont including places like RDU and the Triangle area, the floor for this storm looks lower, but the ceiling is also incredibly high at this point.

If you’re in the Triangle area, you will want to root for the coastal low to take over and really amp up more quickly so it can throw more precip to the N & W. Continued trends in the upper trough like we have seen the last day or two will certainly help in that department. However, I could certainly see a scenario like I mentioned earlier today playing out where this upper low to coastal transfer goes astray. This scenario would leave folks near/west of I-85/77 with heavier snow from the upper low and folks near/east of I-95 in the heavy snow from the coastal, while you end up in a relative “dry slot” of sorts, though of course you could still get some good snow in that case!

I want to see how things play out the next few days, but the 18z models certainly seem to be subtly suggesting this scenario is a greater possibility
 
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