This seems to validate the point but also show that what we're going through today is abnormally rare.
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Pattern Jammin January 2024
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Drizzle Snizzle
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It's rare compared to what has happened in the past but perhaps this is the norm going forward ?
Stormlover
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This looks like the exact same thing as the next two days.Friday
That’s not awful, but I prefer seeing the high drop in over North DakotaNow this right here is something we can work with. IDK if we can time up a well-placed sw or not, but this is right where i want to see Arctic HP for the rest of the winter.
I think that's what some are worried about. There's no way to know. None of us have actually lived through 200 years of winters in the southeast. All we have are statistics, numbers, and other various data points with which to try and put together a quasi-accurate picture of what normal should look like.
I know that during my lifetime, there have been some stinker winters. What makes things seem worse to me now, though, is that even in many of those stinker winters, there were still a few minor events. Also, in some of them, there were possibilities of bigger events that just didn't pan out.
Nowadays, it seems like it's super hard to even get a legitimate threat within a trackable time frame. Instead, we're trying to find ways for specific things to happen in order for a bona fide winter storm to even show up in the modeling....hoping that the models are missing something.
Anyway, I'm optimistic for February, about as optimistic as you can be, I guess. Maybe we'll get something to track then.
Most of the 80s were good until the last couple years, but honestly outside of the two weeks around that January 1988 storm, and the a couple weeks in late February 1989 (I’m counting what happened in December 1989 as part of the 90s) the decade really closed off on a bad note. I don’t know who said the 90s were great but they were actually very bad… after the great Dec 1989, there was nothing prior to the ‘93 Superstorm as CLT went from February 1989 to March 1993 without recording a 1”+ storm. After that outside a couple small events essentially melted the day they fell, the only real winter storms were either Ice storms like February 1994 and 1996 and the snowstorms of January 1996 and December 1997
I'd like to point out that while we all agree the 90s absolutely sucked for snow, we did have numerous ice storms then. It wasn't completely void of winter weather like now.
How’s the euro looking for the weekend system? At this point flakes flying is a win
Drizzle Snizzle
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The 90s were great compared to this decade so far. Two of my favorite storms were in the 90s (1992 and 1993).
I’m not sold on that simply because while this is a longer period or seems like it, if you look back the 30s and the 50s were not good at all for most of the southeast. Honestly we’re still with in 15 year of what was some very good winters for a period that started in ‘08-09 through ‘14-15… the only really bad one during that stretch was ‘11-12
When you're looking at the 30s and 50s, are you looking at just snow events or mixed events, ice storms, etc.?
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I’m looking at the total picture… temps, snow, ice. Yes there were some really good storms during both those decades. I chose those two because I looked them up remembering my grandmother talk about how mild the winters were in the 30s and my mom talking about the 50s. The good thing is both of the those period were followed by the some good decades in the 40s and 60s… much like that poor stretch we had in the mid to late 90s was followed by a great stretch from ‘99-00 to ‘03-04
Yeah, I’ve admittedly not been paying as much attention the last couple winters as it’s been so nightmarish, but we’ve basically not even had any major threats to track during that timeframe, or even minor ones. It’s been awful. There have basically been no redeeming qualities. If we’re going to be snowless, I might as well move back to Florida so at least winter is a very nice time to be outside.
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It might not be true, but the bottom line is we aren’t guaranteed to be here next winter and each one that goes by is one less we get to see in our lifetime. It stinks.
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Yes, if I remember right the 1990s were the worst snow decade for Greensboro, NC and it wasn’t close. I imagine a similar story holds true for a lot of other areas, particularly areas that missed out on the Superstorm, as NC and SC largely did. The 1990s were mostly terrible. 2000-2009 were a mixed bag, but not great, either. They started off great, but the last half of the decade was terrible. The 2020s are obviously off to a nightmarish start, as well, that is rivaling the 1990s so far, and if we don’t see a good finish to this decade, this could go down as the all-time worst.
EDIT: Found this data supporting how uniquely terrible the 1990s were:
Has there ever been a winter in Greensboro with no snow?
GREENSBORO, N.C. (WGHP) – “Snow! It won’t be long before we’ll all be there with snow! Snow! …. I want to wash my hands, my face and hair with snow!” Channel your inne…
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Interestingly, this data also shows the 1960-1989 period was abnormally snowy and might have made expectations too high for a lot of us, but the 1990s were uniquely terrible in any case. The 2000s and 2010s were actually pretty average decades.
This is a good point to consider, true. And one that is harder to capture from just looking at snowfall statistics.