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Tropical Hurricane Ian

Brent said:
Gonna be the deadliest hurricane in the CONUS since Katrina sadly. Also deadliest hurricane in Florida since 1935!

I expect a lot of things to be written in the postseason about this because the failures were all around starting with the models consistently being too far west
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Indeed, a case example for an upper end large Major in to SW FL which is rare. Charlie was a micro type, Ian was a very large circulation, big difference in surge impacts south of the landfalling center. Tampa really lucked out (inside 36 hours), that surge up Tampa Bay would have been far worse in losses.
 
Brent said:
Gonna be the deadliest hurricane in the CONUS since Katrina sadly. Also deadliest hurricane in Florida since 1935!

I expect a lot of things to be written in the postseason about this because the failures were all around starting with the models consistently being too far west
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The problem is officials are afraid to pull the trigger on warnings "to" early.....hell I remember when Hurricane Floyd was coming and they evacuated the entire SE coast from Miami to Hatteras several days before it hit.....then took a lot of heat when it missed Florida...

With Ian they did not issue mandatory evacuation orders in Lee County until Ian was less than 24 hrs out for the Ft Myers area. The NHC had issued a surge warning for Lee County days before they took a hit....there is some indication that Lee County did not follow their own comprehensive emergency management plan.

This will of course lead the the inevitable fight about how crying wolf leads to complacency and people not heeding the warning etc....but at least they had a warning to not heed, and those that wanted to had time to leave....in the end though

The NHC and NWS need to look at finding better ways to convey the danger of these storms better....
 
I have a contact in the SW FL area that said there is evidence of salt water (storm surge) causing fires in various places when it came into contact with the batteries of electric bikes and autos. Anyone heard of this?
 
SASQUATCH said:
I have a contact in the SW FL area that said there is evidence of salt water (storm surge) causing fires in various places when it came into contact with the batteries of electric bikes and autos. Anyone heard of this?
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Water and electricity are never a winning combo, regardless of the metals (ions) contained within. Salt water is by default more corrosive than fresh water. Lithium exposed to water regardless of sodium content is fun to watch.
 
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I'm wondering how high the death toll is really gonna go... I've heard some bad rumors the last couple days that I'm hoping are just the usual false exaggerations but who knows. It sounds like some people who evacuated from Tampa went to Fort Myers though(and most of those hotels were absolutely gutted).... There was a lot of bad decisions all around with this storm
 
Brent said:
I'm wondering how high the death toll is really gonna go... I've heard some bad rumors the last couple days that I'm hoping are just the usual false exaggerations but who knows. It sounds like some people who evacuated from Tampa went to Fort Myers though(and most of those hotels were absolutely gutted).... There was a lot of bad decisions all around with this storm
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Dang, they never got out of the cone. I know folks have their reasons of where they evacuate, but I've always believed to at least get out of the cone. Of course, I know I'm assuming that everyone pays attention to weather like I do, which is foolish, but dang! Hate it for those folks.
 
SASQUATCH said:
Dang, they never got out of the cone. I know folks have their reasons of where they evacuate, but I've always believed to at least get out of the cone. Of course, I know I'm assuming that everyone pays attention to weather like I do, which is foolish, but dang! Hate it for those folks.
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I had heard the same thing in Charley... People in Tampa went to Orlando and got the eyewall while Tampa had nothing (granted they are inland so it wasn't like Fort Myers with surge) but still
 
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SASQUATCH said:
Dang, they never got out of the cone. I know folks have their reasons of where they evacuate, but I've always believed to at least get out of the cone. Of course, I know I'm assuming that everyone pays attention to weather like I do, which is foolish, but dang! Hate it for those folks.
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We always just got out of the state, We had family here in NC, so we always ended up here.
 
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