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Learning Global Warming facts and fiction

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Dated, but a lot of scientists and publications now sounding the alarm on this. Its no longer just the Al Gores of the world.
 

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Avalanche said:
Dated, but a lot of scientists and publications now sounding the alarm on this. Its no longer just the Al Gores of the world.
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I'm sure all the temperatures stations have gotten more concrete built-up around in the past 20 years and they ever have before too.
 
Some tips on how to slow down the global warming train.
 

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Publication on what is needed to protect rainforests. Some scientists are convinced rainforests are a key aspect of protecting our climate against this onslought of rapid warming.
 

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I mean the bill itself will get expensive. Quite a bit of tax revenue to be generated. It will cost us.

And what I meant by warmth costing us is sea level rise. If goes as projected, its another cost we cant afford.
 
Avalanche said:
I mean the bill itself will get expensive. Quite a bit of tax revenue to be generated. It will cost us.

And what I meant by warmth costing us is sea level rise. If goes as projected, its another cost we cant afford.
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The sea is not going to rise much in the next 100 years. Plenty of time to adapt. Also, you need the ice on land to melt into the oceans and that's not happening.
 
weatherfide said:
The sea is not going to rise much in the next 100 years. Plenty of time to adapt. Also, you need the ice on land to melt into the oceans and that's not happening.
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Projections are 1ft by 2050 and 3-7ft by 2100. And that's with a lot of uncertainty due to feedbacks that could make it much more. The only way to adapt would be abandonment.
 
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Projections are 1ft by 2050 and 3-7ft by 2100. And that's with a lot of uncertainty due to feedbacks that could make it much more. The only way to adapt would be abandonment.
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Dude, who builds anything expected to last more than a few years at elevation of 7 feet? Besides, you can build further inland as we go forward in time, and demolish structures at the beach and river banks as needed. Call me when we are talking about 50 foot rise in water.

So Greenland has been gaining ice mass over the past few years. Greenland actually gained ice mass during the summer this year, a very rare occurrence.
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Also check out the graph for 2016-2017, for example...
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And the period of lost mass seems to be turning around, too...
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Do the global warming models predict this?
 
weatherfide said:
Dude, who builds anything expected to last more than a few years at elevation of 7 feet? Besides, you can build further inland as we go forward in time, and demolish structures at the beach and river banks as needed. Call me when we are talking about 50 foot rise in water.

So Greenland has been gaining ice mass over the past few years. Greenland actually gained ice mass during the summer this year, a very rare occurrence.
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Also check out the graph for 2016-2017, for example...
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And the period of lost mass seems to be turning around, too...
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Do the global warming models predict this
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My point is that climate warming has a much stronger driver than CO2 (the sun) and therefore reducing CO2 won't stop it or reverse it. The only option is to adapt to it. The elites are using this lie to manipulate you in to giving them power over you and your children's lives (especially your children, if you have any).

Even if burning fossil fuels caused the globe to warm, it wouldn't be a bad thing and the correct response is to adapt not prevent. Allow people the chance to prosper with inexpensive energy and they will have the resources to adapt. All of the predictions of the past 40 years are nothing more than scare tactics. They promised more and stronger storms and it's not happening. They promised more fires, droughts and heat waves and its still not abnormal in occurrence and magnitude. The overall global temperature appears to be declining since 2016, too. None of the scientific global "models" are accurate.
 
BHS1975 said:
There's been a one foot rise since 1880 and another foot or more by 2050 so it is a slow process on human time scales but will and has already greatly increased storm surge and sunny day flooding events.
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Most beach front property is raised up on pylons. Why is that, I wonder?
 
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BHS1975 said:
Projections are 1ft by 2050 and 3-7ft by 2100. And that's with a lot of uncertainty due to feedbacks that could make it much more. The only way to adapt would be abandonment.
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Well they wont abandon for a hurricane so I doubt most owners would for a inch or so increase.
 
Wonder how long it will take for the climate bill funding to take effect? Ready to get back to having some snow in NC. Also curious what policies this bill will entail to ensure slowing down this rapid warming? We will likely see provisions for a much different lifestyle for the average US citizen.
 
Avalanche said:
Wonder how long it will take for the climate bill funding to take effect? Ready to get back to having some snow in NC. Also curious what policies this bill will entail to ensure slowing down this rapid warming? We will likely see provisions for a much different lifestyle for the average US citizen.
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How much do we all need to give up to get six six inch snow storms in winter in Atlanta? Maybe we could introduce a bill for that? Call it the H.R. 666 maybe?

Seriously, though, how can you prove that spending all of your future tax revenue for the next 30 years is going to change anything? You can't even prove that the global climate models are accurate! That's how you know it's a scam. Adaptation is always the correct course. Most of the time, when someone asks you for money to prevent something, it's a con, extortion or both!
 
weatherfide said:
How much do we all need to give up to get six six inch snow storms in winter in Atlanta? Maybe we could introduce a bill for that? Call it the H.R. 666 maybe?

Seriously, though, how can you prove that spending all of your future tax revenue for the next 30 years is going to change anything? You can't even prove that the global climate models are accurate! That's how you know it's a scam. Adaptation is always the correct course. Most of the time, when someone asks you for money to prevent something, it's a con, extortion or both!
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I think our lifestyle is going to change. People, in mass, are steadfast in reducing global temp increases. Drive a lot, expect that to cost us dearly. Energy cost will deter even using any. Lets ask Pelosi whats in the bill. Lol
 
Avalanche said:
I think our lifestyle is going to change. People, in mass, are steadfast in reducing global temp increases. Drive a lot, expect that to cost us dearly. Energy cost will deter even using any. Lets ask Pelosi whats in the bill. Lol
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Personally I choose to pollute as much as possible. Its good for the environment, really toughens the fishies and birdies up.
 
We're heading into an energy crisis. Most people aren't really prepared for what that looks like. The amount of energy needed to support the amount of economic growth needed to support the amount of debt needed to maintain the trajectory of economic growth needed to avoid a complete collapse is becoming increasingly difficult to produce. This is likely the key reason they're pushing so hard to try and curb the general public's energy usage, moreso than the earth warming a few degrees. You'll notice that most of the people pushing these ideas consume a tremendous amount of energy and show no signs of slowing their own usage. This tells you that they really aren't so much concerned with the planet as much as they are with something else.

Energy costs will likely not go back down to previously cheap/affordable levels. Increasing regulations, increasing levels of intrusion by the government into the private sector, increasing costs to we the people over time, and decreasing availability to currently ubiquitous goods and services that we enjoy are all in store.

As the energy needed to sustain the growth trajectory that we need becomes less easily available, you can expect less freedom and less opportunity. You can also expect more division, more social unrest, more things like Covid, more shortages of critical products and services, and more geopolitical instability.

It would be a smart idea to prepare for that, if you can.
 
I was just heating up my lunch in the break room and the Weather Channel was on the TV. They were showing a chart from a survey about how often people talk or hear about global climate change. About 66% of the respondents answered "never". I thought that's a good start! Maybe we can get that to 85 to 90 percent by next year! Alas, Stephanie Abrams said they were striving to increase the 33% number that responded "occasionally". What a farce!

I wanted to throw a brick at the TV. They are disgusting.
 
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I was just heating up my lunch in the break room and the Weather Channel was on the TV. They were showing a chart from a survey about how often people talk or hear about global climate change. About 66% of the respondents answered "never". I thought that's a good start! Maybe we can get that to 85 to 90 percent by next year! Alas, Stephanie Abrams said they were striving to increase the 33% number that responded "occasionally". What a farce!

I wanted to throw a brick at the TV. They are disgusting.
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Steph has satellites, she knows whats going on up there in the weather world.
 
Dane Wiggington says HAARP is using super secret weather modification weapons to alter jet stream patterns and our climate by heating the ionosphere in certain areas. I would think there would be maps that show if this is happening, though.
 
Rain Cold said:
Dane Wiggington says HAARP is using super secret weather modification weapons to alter jet stream patterns and our climate by heating the ionosphere in certain areas. I would think there would be maps that show if this is happening, though.
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They were stolen by the FBI recently. They were suppose to be stored in a super secret, triple locked safe in Florida.
 
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Huge increase in snow/ice in Greenland, during the summer, records have been broken going back to the start of record keeping in the 1980's. That's huge even for winter months! I don't think the ice sheet is going to melt anytime soon. Does that mean sea level is going to start falling?
 
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