NoSnowATL
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Misc Fall - End of 2019 Whamby
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I’m hugging the 18z American. Whatever it takes to dislodge all that cold from the pole
BHS1975
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With that omega block in the Pacific, we ain't getting jack around here. Didn't we have that exact same pattern last year?
Got to crawl before we can walk
Plus we all know it has to snow in Seattle before it can snow here. I need to check the Wiki first, but I think it’s commonly known as a “table setting step-down process.”
Close enough. New winter same good things in the same spot same turds in the punchbowl
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Last year we actually had a strong +PNA/-EPO Jan....Feb wasn't pretty. We had a pretty good pattern last half of Jan that didn't' produce.
pcbjr
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pick a word for your next post ... 
Yeah we went in the freezer in early January..didn’t see a whole lot of production but it was damn cold..pond beside my house was frozen on top..edit..maybe that was Jan 18’..they are beginning to run together
I'm really hoping for 2014 flip....we had a -PNA pattern to end Dec 2013 and then flipped to that bitterly cold pattern for Jan/Feb.
Would like to see that Scandanavian ridge get going though.
Would like to see that Scandanavian ridge get going though.
Are these the named southeast rainstorms for winter 2020?
Last 10 days or so was a nice cold shot...kind of what I'm hoping for this winter. Get a 7-10 cold shot and fluke a storm.
Still not too warm for a fire..so at least there’s that
JoeD from WB posted on winter today...he's always a good read. His thoughts are that we are in eQBO in the strat and also solar min.
He posted this from a study, which is interesting. He feels the ridge will slide further east and pattern will look like top left.
He posted this from a study, which is interesting. He feels the ridge will slide further east and pattern will look like top left.
I wish we didn't have all these models at our disposal. Most of the time we don't get snow until after mid January so the pattern must on average suck this time of year or it would snow more often. Most of our storms probably have came in a 10 day transient pattern. Memory is a horrible thing to rely on with past weather events. There is no doubt it used to snow more, the records don't lie on that. GSP used to get double digit years on average every 3 years or so. Hasn't happened in 27 years now. That's not a coincidence and that alone pisses me off that those days are long gone. But even then most came in Jan and Feb so I guess its always been a waiting game.
Snowless & Grumpy doing work today!
NoSnowATL
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On Twitter too. It’s a blood bath everywhere. I might just hide in a corner for a few weeks.
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I like that Waiting On Snow guy on the other board too!
Snow.sleet.freezingrain.snow.sleet.freezing rain.snow.sleet.freezingrain.snow.sleet.freezingrain.snow.sleet.freezingrain.
Ok...I feel better. I guess my cyber Tourette's is acting up.
Ok...I feel better. I guess my cyber Tourette's is acting up.
Lol I'm not on Twitter. I don't know who's stealing my thunder on there!
Cheer up! It can't be much longer till we have a winter storm............................ Can it?
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80% of all the snow that has fallen in Charlotte occurs January to March. In fact, January 9th is the average 1st date of our first measurable snowfall over 141 years of record keeping. Another odd note March 2nd is actually the single snowiest day on record, meaning more snow has fallen on that date than any other date of the year. So while we can see snow in December it's actually not very common and even though it's warm now we still have the snowiest part of the cool-season left to go. In the 141 years of record-keeping in #Charlotte, we have never had a season or year with zero snow. The moral of the story don't write off the chances of snow when we aren't even to the coldest and snowiest part of the winter. #snOMG #cltwx #ncwx #scwx
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80% of all the snow that has fallen in Charlotte occurs January to March. In fact, January 9th is the average 1st date of our first measurable snowfall over 141 years of record keeping. Another odd note March 2nd is actually the single snowiest day on record, meaning more snow has fallen on that date than any other date of the year. So while we can see snow in December it's actually not very common and even though it's warm now we still have the snowiest part of the cool-season left to go. In the 141 years of record-keeping in #Charlotte, we have never had a season or year with zero snow. The moral of the story don't write off the chances of snow when we aren't even to the coldest and snowiest part of the winter. #snOMG #cltwx #ncwx #scwx
All I got to say really is... at least is ain't hot. It was 100 degrees in Oct this year, not looking forward to 6 months of unbearable heat again.
It is refreshing in a way to see them not keep saying delayed but not denied. The key imo is simply for any forecaster to not have winter forecasts averaging colder than normal in the E US (at least til the normals warm up) and there would likely be improvement just from that. I think it really is that simple. I know @Snowless & Grumpy would agree. Don’t fight the obvious trend. Join it. That’s easier said than done for forecasters with a good number of energy industry clients. And it shouldn’t be affected by what you want to happen.
Stole this from another board. But it describes our winter! lol
I go back and forth on this. Are things so much different than the previous decade...more of a rhetorical question. Previous decade we had the following BN/AN winters. Fairly split.
BN: 2001, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2010
AN: 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
Current decade it’s been 2011, 2014, 2015 and then the super nino and after that it’s been rough. 2013 was AN but back half was fairly intense in parts of the east.
Its hard to argue considering we are going on our 5th AN winter in a row.
John1122
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Analogs don't work well any more. Not sure what is to come, but in Tennessee a cold November had a strong correlation to a cold/snowy winter. Last years cold November fell flat in winter. Still pending for this year. I can't complain much. I've had 6 inches of snow in November and Early December this year. That's better than the last two Met winters here. In the 2010s its either boom or bust. I get 20+ inches or less than 8 every year.
We had a solid 7 year stretch where we were solidly BN. Since the super nino things have been off the rails.
And when I say “we” I mean conus majority like below.
filtering out 2012
And when I say “we” I mean conus majority like below.
filtering out 2012
Definitely! But this one was so close to being so much more. But, still a great event for Raleigh.
We blame it on bad luck always having a bad pattern. But if I'm not mistaken the whole US even the west is above average for winter temps this decade. The only exception is the northern plains. I don't have the composite right now but I'm fairly sure that's right though. I'd like to see composites for Europe and Asia for winters this decade as well to see if its mostly AN there too. If not it could be just bad luck I guess for the US.
I loved that storm because the ground was below freezing when snow started falling. Something that rarely happens in the SE.
Winter is always entertaining on these forums. Either we actually get snow threats, or the weenie suicidal posts are fun to read. Either way, I win in a way. Of course, I make my weenie posts, too, because it's fun.
The 2000s had some catastrophic winters, too, though. The 2010s were better for snowfall around here. The mid-2000s basically had back to back to back virtual shutouts.
cd2play
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Don't worry. In about 5 more years summer will be 8 months long, and our March flizzards will give way to upper 90s in April.
Tarheel17
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Kiss of death right there...place all of your bets on zero snow after Brad's post (and I love Brad).Cheer up! It can't be much longer till we have a winter storm............................ Can it?
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In the 141 years of record-keeping in #Charlotte, we have never had a season or year with zero snow.
Bamwx hung it up today. Cohen didn't seem too far from it. But you can bet any amount JB won't quit on us!
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