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Misc Fall - End of 2019 Whamby

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My book will actually be a series. Part 2 is: ------------- and the liberal scuba diver releasing spring 2020.
 
where's brick at, I could use his reassurement that everything will be ok

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Euro must have been awesome!
I’m gonna enjoy my after Christmas 70s
 
Just looking at the SE US, @pcbjr didn't benefit from 2/12/14 and @WeatherDawg87 in far south GA may not have either. Also, yours truly didn't. The last true SE board wider outside of NC was 1/18/1977. Of course, the Jan of 1985 extreme cold wave was arguably the greatest winter event since Feb of 1899 although that's for temps as most got no more than light wintry precip. and some got none.

Edit: 2/12/2010 came very close but JAX/GNV didn't quite get wintry as they had a cold rain.
2/25-6/1914 was very close, too.

Edit again: 3/13/1993 was very close, too, since JAX got a T but Phil just missed as well as Fayetteville, NC and other parts of E NC missing.

Another edit: thanks to John, I'll add early Feb of 1996 to the list of very close calls as it looks like most of N FL just missed wintry precip. However, in terms of great cold waves, this one hit everyone, indeed. @pcbjr's homestead got down to 18!!

Maybe I'm crazy (especially since I didn't truly experience the ice storm part of it because I was thankfully out of town and out of sight), but I count 2/12/14 even though it was an ice storm. I still hear talk about it occasionally and we're coming up on 6 years since this one happened.

Of course it's mostly hate toward it. For some reason in this county everyone that had a different power company from Georgia Power did not get their power back for a week after they lost it. My parents were prepared for a day of no power but had to bail when they weren't getting it back the day after the storm and they had to stay at my grandparents house for a while. Because of that, I'm not sure if I'd have hated this storm. But if there's a repeat possible and I'm around, I'm...

well actually, my older cousin's family now is a bail out home if power is lost for a while.
 
Folks, do yourselves a favor and ignore the Happy Hour GEFS. The GEFS has been sucking lately in accuracy. Just go enjoy football, good food, and maybe a drink, instead! You can resume looking at the models tomorr...oops, I mean after Santa has done his thing. Keep in mind that January can still absolutely end up jammin'!
 
Ryan's in on the lets see how cold Alaska can get.


Anomalous cold in the winter time towards the pole *in* the source region for cold is linked to climate change? I’m just super skeptical with that thought. Nonetheless, congrats Fairbanks ?
 
I swear every other day for the last month has either been winter cancel or winter on. People keep referencing last year and how it’s going to be the same this year. Every winter is different and very few play out the exact same for the USA as a whole. Add to the fact that since we get so little snow each year it will only take one storm to change the whole outlook on any given winter. We also should not torture ourselves in December since it rarely snows more then a dusting during this month each year. Any southeast city that has had accumulating snow recently in December probably won’t see it happen again for at least a decade or so. I don’t know why but it still shocks me at how many people start canceling winter as soon as the first cold front starts to exit the building. I don’t care what the models show as not one of us knows Exactly what will happen between now and the 2nd week of March. And of course mid March is truly when you should be waving the white flag on winter, not in November or December.
Don't you be rational. Snow starts on 11/1 and stops on 5/1 around here

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Turn the lights out on winter if we do have a vortex over Alaska like that. If 11/12 was similar to that, that winter was very meh.
 
Turn the lights out on winter if we do have a vortex over Alaska like that. If 11/12 was similar to that, that winter was very meh.
Huge difference is this year has a clear nino lean whereas 11-12 was a Nina coupled to a cold PDO. The nino ish global circulation means the STJ will be more active than normal over our sector of the globe and even if a massive vortex shows up over Alaska, the end result will very likely be much more seasonable in the SE US than 11-12 but probably still above average.
 
Regarding the cold Arctic/+AO being progged, would it make you feel better that we'll have a shot to finally get the Arctic down to near normal on this map in early Jan? Think of it as a sacrifice to make the polar bears happy and to shut up Greta and her fellow GW fanatics.1577062164303.png
 
Regarding the cold Arctic/+AO being progged, would it make you feel better that we'll have a shot to finally get the Arctic down to near normal on this map in early Jan? Think of it as a sacrifice to make the polar bears happy.
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Yup. Impossible to please everyone. It can’t be anomalously cold everywhere at the same time
 
I'm glad I had no expectations this winter the last few have just really changed things for me and honestly even we had good patterns it never snowed
 
As Webber pointed out...2012 was similar a pattern as we are about to experience. But in Feb we cashed in with this baby.

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I warned y'all not to peak at the Happy Hour GEFS. Before that, y'all were very content, full of Christmas cheer, and looking forward to a Jammin' Jan. But instead y'all peaked and suddenly y'all think the winter has suddenly been flushed down the commode lol.
 
I warned y'all not to peak at the Happy Hour GEFS. Before that, y'all were very content, full of Christmas cheer, and looking forward to a Jammin' Jan. But instead y;all peaked and suddenly y'all think the winter has suddenly been flushed down the commode lol.

Not all of winter. Just the first 90%.


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