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Pattern Fab-February 2020 The dark age

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Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
42°F

6°C
Humidity92%
Wind SpeedNW 18 G 24 mph
Barometer29.91 in (1012.7 mb)
Dewpoint40°F (4°C)
Visibility6.00 mi
Wind Chill34°F (1°C)
Last update4 Feb 11:53 am CST


This Afternoon
Mostly cloudy, with a temperature falling to around 44 by 5pm. North northwest wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.


Curious if Brent may be a little excited that the cold is about 6 hours ahead of schedule for his area? The winds are quite a bit stronger than forecast. maybe the track will be a little south??
 
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Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
42°F

6°C
Humidity92%
Wind SpeedNW 18 G 24 mph
Barometer29.91 in (1012.7 mb)
Dewpoint40°F (4°C)
Visibility6.00 mi
Wind Chill34°F (1°C)
Last update4 Feb 11:53 am CST


This Afternoon
Mostly cloudy, with a temperature falling to around 44 by 5pm. North northwest wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.


Curious if Brent may be a little excited that the cold is about 6 hours ahead of schedule for his area? The winds are quite a bit stronger than forecast. maybe the track will be a little south??

He said earlier in the thread he's decided to go to Wichita Falls tonight and personally I don't blame him from the little I've seen.
 
We’re going to have to quit lumping our winters into “El Niño” or “La Niña”. It’s obvious at this point that the waters in the east-central Equatorial Pacific aren’t the only thing determining what type of winter we will have. Just my two pennies
Well said Jimmy..well said!
Maybe this friday /sat thing will over perform here again and I see some more fatties falling and get another trace. Pathetic I know but given our recent history that's epic nowadays!
 
Well said Jimmy..well said!
Maybe this friday /sat thing will over perform here again and I see some more fatties falling and get another trace. Pathetic I know but given our recent history that's epic nowadays!

If rates overcome I could see north of 85 picking up a inch.


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Where is this info coming from? Yes, El Ninos absolutely can and have delivered frigid air many times into the SE. El Ninos can't deliver frigid air and there's cold rain only? This is so false. You need to prove your assertion with non-misleading facts as this is a science board.
Agreed. Here’s January 2016 and February 2016 which I’m pretty sure was El Nino.
 

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No wonder -NPOs are favorable for NINO growth, not only do the low-level trades weaken but there's usually a huge upper level outflow jet into the "Kona Low" (trough near Hawaii) which substantially increases upper level divergence over the West-Central Pacific, encouraging ascent & deep convection, favoring phase 6-7-8 MJO.

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Agreed. Here’s January 2016 and February 2016 which I’m pretty sure was El Nino.

And how about the very cold and snowy 2009-10, the coldest since 1977-8. And by the way, 1977-8 was also El Nino and was the 2nd coldest on record to THE coldest, 1976-7, still another El Nino!

In addition at ATL, 2004-5 had a major ZR. Also, 1991-2, 1986-7, and 1982-3 had major snows. 1987-8 had a major sleet. 1979-80 had the early March snow with very cold temps. I could go on and on in response to the comment that El Ninos can't deliver "frigid cold" and "so we have cold rain only." And this leads to another question: since when do you need "frigid cold" to get wintry precip?
That comment is so obviously false that I wonder if that was merely trolling out of frustration or boredom.
Edit: I almost forgot 1972-3: severe ZR ATL and historic snow further south!! The second heaviest snow for middle Ga was during the El Nino of 1913-4.

Edit: More El Nino winters that produced major winter storms: 1957-8, 1951-2, 1941-2, 1939-40 (2), 1923-4, 1911-2, 1905-6, 1904-5 (2 major ZRs!), 1896-7, 1888-9, 1884-5 (2), 1880-1, 1876-7
 
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Generally, I want no part of a La Nina but west based (Nino3.4) El Nino's give us the chance for more snow due to the jet undercutting highs across the North and bring enough cold air (depending on high placement and low track) to produce for the majority of our region. These type El Nino's tend to be back loaded but not every time.
 
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And how about the very cold and snowy 2009-10, the coldest since 1977-8. And by the way, 1977-8 was also El Nino and was the 2nd coldest on record to THE coldest, 1976-7, still another El Nino!

In addition at ATL, 2004-5 had a major ZR. Also, 1991-2, 1986-7, and 1982-3 had major snows. 1987-8 had a major sleet. 1979-80 had the early March snow with very cold temps. I could go on and on in response to the comment that El Ninos can't deliver "frigid cold" and "so we have cold rain only." And this leads to another question: since when do you need "frigid cold" to get wintry precip?
That comment is so obviously false that I wonder if that was merely trolling out of frustration or boredom.
Edit: I almost forgot 1972-3: severe ZR ATL and historic snow further south!! The second heaviest snow for middle Ga was during the El Nino of 1913-4.

Edit: More El Nino winters that produced major winter storms: 1957-8, 1951-2, 1941-2, 1939-40 (2), 1923-4, 1911-2, 1905-6, 1904-5 (2 major ZRs!), 1896-7, 1888-9, 1884-5 (2), 1880-1, 1876-7
give me La Niña every year
 
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give me La Niña every year

Actually, you being in W TN means you don't see as much of the winter advantages of El Nino over La Nina as folks east of you. For your area, La Nina and El Nino are closer as regards cold and wintry precip vs. say, ATL and RDU.

I realize you may not be a lover of cold and wintry precip. and may prefer thunderstorms.
 
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