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Pattern December Doldrums 2025 🎄 ❄️

Webberweather53 said:
An oldie example of how a west-based -NAO/-PNA can work in our favor if we play things right:

This is the 1922 Knickerbocker Storm which caused a roof collapse to the first movie theater in America. Also dropped 3 feet of snow in Roxboro, just a very slow moving and amped storm.

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Dang, went deep in the files for that one. Good look
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
I was just about to post about this. When it’s -58 on the Alaskan border the writing is on the wall. Same concept as last year when it snowed in the gulf and Alaska was complaining about “there’s no snow here. It’s never going to snow or be cold here again.” Well, here you go View attachment 179266
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It'll dislodge and pile drive the Southeast in March, and give us some late frost/freezes! #bookit
 
tennessee storm said:
Anytime see Alaska cold . That’s not good
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Better than a blowtorch over Alaska and the United States with completely zonal flow

As frustrating as it is to remove the snow-cover over the northern tier of the US, we can recover if we keep the snow cover in NW Canada… if the circulation pattern changes
 
Ollie Williams said:
Better than a blowtorch over Alaska and the United States with completely zonal flow

As frustrating as it is to remove the snow-cover over the northern tier of the US, we can recover if we keep the snow cover in NW Canada… if the circulation pattern changes
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Yeah I guess I might be in the minority but I don’t ever get disappointed to see cold like that building in Alaska and NW Canada. To me that means that the cold air is relatively close by and we don’t have to depend on a cross polar flow to inject a Siberian air mass into the pattern.
 
Chazwin said:
Yeah I guess I might be in the minority but I don’t ever get disappointed to see cold like that building in Alaska and NW Canada. To me that means that the cold air is relatively close by and we don’t have to depend on a cross polar flow to inject a Siberian air mass into the pattern.
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There won't be a "pattern" to inject it in to. The conditions that create the "pig" are not going to change in the next two weeks, maybe longer.
 
weatherfide said:
There won't be a "pattern" to inject it in to. The conditions that create the "pig" are not going to change in the next two weeks, maybe longer.
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The point though is that you don’t have to have the perfect pattern to tap into it like you do with a cross polar flow.
 
Chazwin said:
Yeah I guess I might be in the minority but I don’t ever get disappointed to see cold like that building in Alaska and NW Canada. To me that means that the cold air is relatively close by and we don’t have to depend on a cross polar flow to inject a Siberian air mass into the pattern.
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I wonder if this could play out like late January into early February of 1989 did. Alaska had extreme cold, then a major cold snap into the central US, and then finally a quick hitting cold snap for NC, and SC. Some of us got down close to 10 degrees with that one.
 
JHS said:
I wonder if this could play out like late January into early February of 1989 did. Alaska had extreme cold, then a major cold snap into the central US, and then finally a quick hitting cold snap for NC, and SC. Some of us got down close to 10 degrees with that one.
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I hate waiting so long for it because of wasting some or all of January but that is still up in the air at this point as of now but I think February might be our time later this winter. Will see how it shakes out.
 
On the upside there does seem to be a signal that keeps showing up for a wave across the south around NYE. Still in that 300 range though
 
most winter day and night ever in this part of the country. 45 degree wedged rain and INSANELY thick fog. Fog started really getting going this afternoon and now you can’t see across the road
 
GaWx said:
Ladies and gentlemen, can I have your attention, please? The results are in and we did it. The MJO went back into phase 8 on Dec 15th, the coldest day of the season to date! Let the celebrations begin! The weenies are gonna party like it’s Feb 1899!
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Talk about a turnaround! After one day of glee and bigtime celebration due to our immense accomplishment of getting phase 8 back on the coldest day so far this season, it’s already gone. The MJO moved into phase 7 two days ago. Turn out the lights, the party’s over (well as of two days ago at least). :(

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But the good news is that the models are suggesting a good chance this moved right back into 8 either yesterday or today! So, we might go right back to celebrating as early as tomorrow! :) :)
 
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Christmas Day. Hardly a flake from the Louisiana purchase eastward in the continental US. It’s hard to even fathom how it was able to snow here on Christmas Day 15 years ago. Something that may never happen again. But Grandpa Jimmy was there. I seen it with my own two eyes. IMG_7057.jpeg
 
The only consolation I can give, is the max/ peak of the coming crap pattern/Torch happens right off the bat. Week of Christmas unfortunately. It ( pattern responsible for creating this mess )will not disappear overnight. But we will be taking baby steps toward getting ourselves out of it by 12/28-12/29 onward. Be a 2 step forward/ one step back type deal. This back an forth will most likely continue first 10 days of January, before rinsing itself out. Post Jan 10thish, I can't say with much confidence, what the newly re-shuffeled deck will look like. Our luck, it will be another bad hand we get dealt, or maybe we luck up and get the Holy Grail ( I wouldn't be holding my breathe).
All you can do is watch the CFS and weeklies for clues.

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SD said:
.13 I hope weather changes in 26 bc 25 has been underwhelming dry un buttered bland ass toast
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Yeah, it's not too bad right now but if this extends into the growing season, we will be toast. Falls Lake is way down right now. Many years back I saw it almost get back to the original riverbanks.
 
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