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Pattern December Doldrums 2025 🎄 ❄️
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CNCsnwfan1210
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Gfs pretty different at 90 lol
Classic
CNCsnwfan1210
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I’ll take these trends roughly ~3 days out or so.
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iwantsouthernsnow123
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Would like some more cold air, but we're definitely trending the right direction right now.
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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This is for Fro!
This is the first one I’ve been mildly interested in for our area.
iwantsouthernsnow123
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Agreed, the first one never stood a chance. I'd like for a stronger inital cold air source just to hold over until the main cold air comes through. Not sure if the CAD is going to hold on quite long enough to do so. If we don't get that, then we need that big push of cold air. One key factor about this system that hasn't been talked about too much from what i've seen is baja low.. these do some wild things sometimes.. --Trends have actually been postponing the stringing out of the baja energy, which can be huge for this system potentially in terms of getting the moisture in. I don't think it will be overamped and do what this one did just because of how far south the baja is placed. We just have to keep hoping that NS energy keeps digging. With CMC initially not looking as good with the baja low, I think this 0z GDPS run will be a miss.
Canadian is close, might have to stay up for euro now
CNCsnwfan1210
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Nice shot of cold air coming south on 12/12 per GFS
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CNCsnwfan1210
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Just a little improvement for the early week system on the 00z GEFS, still needs some work but there’s some time left.
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Tsappfrog20
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Looks like the Euro continues the trend not fully there but still plenty of time to continue to get better!
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NBAcentel
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Euro Is really close to some ULL magic 
NBAcentel
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Welp 
trackersacker
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MJO moment
NBAcentel
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If we bridge that western ridge and -WPO/-EPO ridge, it’s gonna get legit cold 
CNCsnwfan1210
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On Pivotal, it does show a little mix in western NC on the 00z Euro Monday afternoon.
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Yeh would be nice to dig this more West & further South. I'll be in the mountains next weekend & this is close. Bulk of energy is swinging North though.
6z GFS shows a major arctic blast on day 11/12. Our friends in Florida should finally see winter temps:
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Bigedd09
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Take it for what it’s worth but the AI is getting even cooler and more precip for Monday 
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Yep, here's the 6z:Take it for what it’s worth but the AI is getting even cooler and more precip for Monday
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CNCsnwfan1210
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CNCsnwfan1210
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Even the Euro is trending colder and trying to spit out some flakes on Monday
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CNCsnwfan1210
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All three major OP models have some decent cold shots in the next 10-15 days, and the GFS is still signaling a stretched polar vortex mid month.
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euro op brought barney out to play in fantasy land
let's see if we can keep sliding this on back west like we have been for a while now
also, wen torch
let's see if we can keep sliding this on back west like we have been for a while now
also, wen torch
Again, wen torch??
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Yep. I've been watching this, and the GFS OP has been persistently forecasting this stretch for quite a few runs and has support from its ensemble. Notably, the EURO ensemble has picked up on this weakening in the past few days as well. Bodes well for a cold Christmas week.
All three major OP models have some decent cold shots in the next 10-15 days, and the GFS is still signaling a stretched polar vortex mid month.
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just need some systems to grab a hold and ride on in.
For us Georgia weenies, this morning's NAM is the first run showing just enough cold to allow for a little snow rather than drizzle or light rain with the next system. Just a tease, but I'm easy.
I'm not sure how we can get the Monday system to come back to life....it looks like we might be trending better moisture-wise, but it sure seems reminiscent of this system with no cold air feed until late, surface temps baking and dews in the 30s.
I think late next week into the weekend is a few adjustments away from something interesting. Really need this trough to dig more & further West. 
256wx
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I’ll take that run in north Alabama!
Want to see that ridge sharpen up out west, then we could be in business. The cold is in the pattern. The pattern is active. Those are two key ingredients. We either need to STJ to kick into gear, which may happen later in the month, or build the ridge out west. All the energy coming in over the top is flattening it down too much. Other alternative is it moves west a tad.
CNCsnwfan1210
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Thanks Mitch for posting this on X… marginal temps but you can get a rain/snow mix out of this, 6z Euro
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It's fun we are at least tracking in early December & have a lot more cold on the horizon. Something big is coming eventually.
Brent
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Yeah I dunno what everyone is complaining about
It's not even winter yet and we've had two winter events already
like I don't know what people are expectingI'm actually worried we'll get so cold the snow is in the Gulf again
