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Pattern December - Deal or No Deal?

It’s own ensembles don’t even support it. Like not even in the same ballpark.
The GEFS will oscillate like a deterministic model, that certainly carries no weight with me.

FWIW, at H5 (the only thing that can reasonably even be considered at this range) it looks like pretty good agreement to me.

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Gonna be a long week!! I am least bit skeptical at this point, after all we are in the south............. But I do love the possibilities that are on the table!!
Somehow, even with your skepticism, Wilkesboro, will still get 6” of something!
 
Yeah I really liked Andy Wood, and he would do a lot of posting in Fox21's weather forum especially with a possible approaching winter storm. That was fun.
Kendra Kent is so generic and downplays everything. Since Andy wood left. It’s so hard to to watch Fox 21 now. So I just stick to WYFF now. And of course this site
 
The GEFS will oscillate like a deterministic model, that certainly carries no weight with me.

FWIW, at H5 (the only thing that can reasonably even be considered at this range) it looks like pretty good agreement to me.

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GEFS seems to have a taller western ridge
 
Kendra Kent is so generic and downplays everything. Since Andy wood left. It’s so hard to to watch Fox 21 now. So I just stick to WYFF now. And of course this site
KK sucks! She’s the Fischel of GSP!
 
GEFS seems to have a taller western ridge
I did say reasonably haha. It's more a timing issue - the GFS is just a little different than the GEFS in regards to timing. These are my own forecast ideas - I'm just trying to say that the GFS as of now is the closest to them - I don't hug any model I make my own forecasts - I just use them as what they're intended to be - a tool (numerical weather prediction guidance).
 
Euro and GFS are both trending slower and slower with the shortwave. Before long, there isn't going to be anything to keep the storm suppressed at upper levels. What that would result in is the surface high sliding offshore as the moisture moves in, with some insitu CAD in the favored regions with a Miller B surface low that could begin as frozen before many would change over - similar to the events we've already seen. Could end up being a big winter storm for Virginia on northward depending on how far north it goes. That's been my general idea for the past few days and it still seems to me that's where we are headed in the guidance. Others are welcome to disagree as I'm sure they do!

In fact, one could argue the Euro is catching up to the GFS solution.

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Euro and GFS are both trending slower and slower with the shortwave. Before long, there isn't going to be anything to keep the storm suppressed at upper levels. What that would result in is the surface high sliding offshore as the moisture moves in, with some insitu CAD in the favored regions with a Miller B surface low that could begin as frozen before many would change over - similar to the events we've already seen. Could end up being a big winter storm for Virginia on northward depending on how far north it goes. That's been my general idea for the past few days and it still seems to me that's where we are headed in the guidance. Others are welcome to disagree as I'm sure they do!

In fact, one could argue the Euro is catching up to the GFS solution.

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One could also argue that the 50/50 low and the confluence is trending stronger on both models as well as the ridge of high pressure to the north of the system.
 
I agree, what do you think about the taller ridge further west on the gefs? Will it help our chances in the cad areas or even outside of them?
I would think that taller western ridge would lead to a deeper diving shortwave keeping our system suppressed and keeping it from cutting
 
Depending on tonight's model runs and early tomorrow model runs, is it possible that the thread will be created at some point tomorrow?
 
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