Jon
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A simple fact check of something you see on Twitter by a google search helps to not spread disinformation about a deadly virus during a pandemic.
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A simple fact check of something you see on Twitter by a google search helps to not spread disinformation about a deadly virus during a pandemic.
Jon
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My PaReNtS fRiEnDs
Well I know plenty of people who got calls saying they were negative, so her point?
Jon
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The problem is people think because a verified twitter account tweets something, it must be true. Hence the following and retweets. There’s no evidence that even occurred and she doesn’t need any. The internet is great.
ForsythSnow
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Taking advantage of having a huge follower base to spread lies to make Covid seem like a joke. Just check her profile and see what her views seem to lean toward. If I had a twitter account with thousands of followers and said the same thing people would react just the same. As I say, to some people, everything is a conspiracy. Some people need to get their heads out of the clouds and think for themselves, not listen to some weird random person on the internet.
Jon
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Thats just a huge conspiracy theory. The war against trump and his HCQ cure.
Plenty of countries outside of Trump’s America has had plenty of time to show benefit of HCQ and they can’t, but somehow that’s also against trump? If it was a miracle drug it would have been proven by now, really, it’s not hard especially with the amount of hospitalizations at the moment and the wide availability of the drug even outside of the USA. I have patients going without it because of a shortage and the fact that the USA has a national stockpile of 63 million doses just sitting in a warehouse.
I want my lupus patients to have HCQ again.
I want my rheumatoid arthritis patients to have HCQ again.
I am tired of the polarity in politics involving an actual medication that’s used to treat actual disease every day, outside of Coronavirus.
It’s time to believe the experts here. Even if it shows an extremely small benefit, it isn’t a win by Trump. HCQ has notable risks.... In healthcare we do something called risk-benefit analysis. If the risks outweigh the small benefit, especially when used in a critical patient, doctors opt to use better options. It’s not as simple as “it can help so give it”. I haven’t read the pre-print but look forward to the critiques and let’s see if it proves anything we don’t already know here. There’s a million drugs that are showing some benefit in protecting patients, such as ARBs and H2 antagonists, the fact that HCQ is still being discussed is strictly political. I look forward to see the trial when it’s published!
Florida reports 10,059 new cases and 28 new deaths.
Arizona reports 3,536 new cases and 4 new deaths.
NoSnowATL
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Sorry, I can't agree it wasn't a snipe against Trump. I agree HCQ may provide no benefit, but when the Lancet sides against Trump and then publishes that piece of crap study that has not only been ridiculed for horrible data and then has to be retracted along with the New England medical journal, it's political. One of the original authors of the study even "resigned" from his job after it was brought to light. Don't forget how the media quickly reported that HCQ and Trump was killing people spread like wildfire.
Trump may end up looking like an idiot for pushing HCQ if it's not effective, but the media and those science journals will have been helping kill people if it is.
The preprint is very interesting, however that preprint is different from the study here.
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Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale even said a month ago that it should be given and it's dangers greatly exaggerated.
Yale Epidemiologist: Hydroxychloroquine Should be Used as Standard COVID-19 Treatment Despite Being Potentially Harmful
An epidemiologist at Yale still believes that the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine should be used as a "standard for care" in treating patients with COVID-19. Furthermore, he recommends using the drug in combination with azithromycin and zinc.
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NCSNOW
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Stanford Doc: COVID Fatality Rate For People Under 45 Is "Almost 0%"
by Tyler Durden
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 09:20
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Authored by Dominick Mastrangelo via The Washington Examiner,
this article goes with the increasing drumbeat that Corono is loosing its punch. While becoming even easier to spread, its not the beast it once was, weakening.
by Tyler Durden
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 09:20
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Authored by Dominick Mastrangelo via The Washington Examiner,
this article goes with the increasing drumbeat that Corono is loosing its punch. While becoming even easier to spread, its not the beast it once was, weakening.
Shaggy
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Tyler durden now that's good!
Dominic Mastranglelo better?
Shaggy
Member
Ouch......
www.yahoo.com
239 Experts With 1 Big Claim: The Coronavirus Is Airborne
The coronavirus is finding new victims worldwide, in bars and restaurants, offices, markets and casinos, giving rise to frightening clusters of infection that increasingly confirm what many scientists have been saying for months: The virus lingers in the air indoors, infecting those nearby.If...
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How about the Dr John Ioannidis himself.
Up to 300 Million People May Be Infected by Covid-19, Stanford Guru John Ioannidis Says - GreekReporter.com
Leading epidemiologist Dr. John Ioannidis of Stanford University estimates that about 150-300 million or more people have already been infected by COVID-19 around the world, far more than the 10 million documented cases. In an interview with Greek Reporter, the Greek American scientist warns...
usa.greekreporter.com
Webberweather53
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Trump is and will continue to look like an idiot regardless of whether HCQ is effective or not. Magas still clinging to this phony conspiracy theory bs about it being a ploy against trump is truly laughable.Sorry, I can't agree it wasn't a snipe against Trump. I agree HCQ may provide no benefit, but when the Lancet sides against Trump and then publishes that piece of crap study that has not only been ridiculed for horrible data and then has to be retracted along with the New England medical journal, it's political. One of the original authors of the study even "resigned" from his job after it was brought to light. Don't forget how the media quickly reported that HCQ and Trump was killing people spread like wildfire.
Trump may end up looking like an idiot for pushing HCQ if it's not effective, but the media and those science journals will have been helping kill people if it is.
The preprint is very interesting, however that preprint is different from the study here.
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Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale even said a month ago that it should be given and it's dangers greatly exaggerated.
Yale Epidemiologist: Hydroxychloroquine Should be Used as Standard COVID-19 Treatment Despite Being Potentially Harmful
An epidemiologist at Yale still believes that the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine should be used as a "standard for care" in treating patients with COVID-19. Furthermore, he recommends using the drug in combination with azithromycin and zinc.
smast16
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I guess I remember the fish tank cleaner incident differently.
Jon
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Sorry, I can't agree it wasn't a snipe against Trump. I agree HCQ may provide no benefit, but when the Lancet sides against Trump and then publishes that piece of crap study that has not only been ridiculed for horrible data and then has to be retracted along with the New England medical journal, it's political. One of the original authors of the study even "resigned" from his job after it was brought to light. Don't forget how the media quickly reported that HCQ and Trump was killing people spread like wildfire.
Trump may end up looking like an idiot for pushing HCQ if it's not effective, but the media and those science journals will have been helping kill people if it is.
The preprint is very interesting, however that preprint is different from the study here.
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Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale even said a month ago that it should be given and it's dangers greatly exaggerated.
Yale Epidemiologist: Hydroxychloroquine Should be Used as Standard COVID-19 Treatment Despite Being Potentially Harmful
An epidemiologist at Yale still believes that the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine should be used as a "standard for care" in treating patients with COVID-19. Furthermore, he recommends using the drug in combination with azithromycin and zinc.
Ok and as a pharmacist I’d have to disagree on a global conspiracy theory to undermine trump and kill millions of people by not recommending Hydroxychloroquine. It may have use on the most critical, but they usually throw the kitchen sink at those patients...that’s not the way it was touted. Again, risk benefit.
Then care to explain the Lancet publishing a bad study and then having to retract it along with the media who pushed Trump is killing people?
Cad Wedge NC
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Yes, it was purely political...... without a doubt. Nobody can deny that.
Ouch......
239 Experts With 1 Big Claim: The Coronavirus Is Airborne
The coronavirus is finding new victims worldwide, in bars and restaurants, offices, markets and casinos, giving rise to frightening clusters of infection that increasingly confirm what many scientists have been saying for months: The virus lingers in the air indoors, infecting those nearby.If...
Wait, What?? It's airborne?? This has been known since March. Great journalism NYT. SMH
Perhaps these 239 experts can conduct a study to confirm a round wheel is indeed better than a square wheel.
What Are Airborne Diseases?
Airborne diseases spread easily and are difficult to prevent. Learn more about the types of airborne diseases and how to protect yourself.
www.healthline.com
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
Tyler Durden, extremely reliable source you got there...Stanford Doc: COVID Fatality Rate For People Under 45 Is "Almost 0%"
by Tyler Durden
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 09:20
TwitterFacebookRedditEmailPrint
Authored by Dominick Mastrangelo via The Washington Examiner,
this article goes with the increasing drumbeat that Corono is loosing its punch. While becoming even easier to spread,
Encouraging people to basically consume fish tank cleaner exposes you to attacks like that. Maybe if Trump wasn’t such an idio... oh never mind ?
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
Everything is a conspiracy theory and everyone is out to get trump! It’s just a big liberal hoax?!
On the first part, I posted the actually transcript from the Dr in question above.
On the second, so Trump being an idiot allows people who don't like his politics to vilify a possible helpful drug?
BTW another preprint study in NY showed reduced mortality rates in those given HCQ, FWIW.
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
It wasn’t verified to helpful and encouraging people to take an unproven drug.. is just wrong and idiotic in so many ways
And that is completely understandable, had Trump's drug killed people he should have been ridiculed. However instead of letting Trump fall on his own, the press vilified the drug, science journals made political statements against Trump and then published a study that helped stop clinical trials around the world. The study was quickly torn apart because of bad and made up data, had to be retracted, and clinical trials around the world restarted.
Fewest deaths reported since March 23. BUT it is a Sunday on a holiday weekend, so put a big asterisk on there.
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Regardless of reason(better treatment, weaker virus, younger patients, ect) this is good news.
www.bbc.com
Coronavirus death rate falling in hospitals - BBC News
Researchers at the University of Oxford identified the pattern in hospital case data for England.
www.bbc.com
121 University of Washington students test positive for coronavirus
More than 100 students remaining on campus or in nearby off-campus housing at the University of Washington have tested positive for coronavirus, the university said Sunday.
Cad Wedge NC
Member
Wow, you woke up! Good for you.....
NCSNOW
Member
Not sure if true or not, but saw an article that the coronavirus is close to losing its epidemic status in a few weeks if deaths continue to go down.
Worldometers.info.coronovirus
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Nick Cordero has died from the coronavirus. https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Tony-Nominated-Broadway-Actor-Nick-Cordero-Dies-at-41-20200705
Brent
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Webberweather53
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Pretty horrible snide, you can certainly do better than that.
Cad Wedge NC
Member
I couldn't resist..... especially after that facetious post, from you, about everything being a liberal hoax. Furthermore it was not a horrible snide. It was in jest. Surely, you can differentiate between the two.
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
I’m no Trump fan, whatsoever, but this error keeps getting recirculated. The liberal hoax he was referring to was actually not the virus, itself. Rather, he was referring to the Dem criticism of his response to it:
From Snopes:
“In context, Trump did not say in the passage above that the virus itself was a hoax. He instead said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax.”
Did President Trump Refer to the Coronavirus as a 'Hoax'?
Trump's commentary on the new coronavirus came before the virus began killing patients in the U.S.
www.snopes.com
4 Tampa hospitals out of ICU beds. Anyone apologize to DeSantis yet?
thehill.com
Four Tampa-area hospitals at maximum ICU capacity
The intensive care units (ICU) at four hospitals in the Tampa area were at maximum capacity over the weekend as the number of coronavirus cases in Florida continue to spike.
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