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o_O If the panic continues there's no telling what might happen economically. I get that this is a new unknown virus, but the global panic is ridiculous. This is not an end of the world, killing everybody it touches, "I Am Legend" type of virus. If people would use common sense, wash hands, stop going places if sick, leave their stocks alone, live life, etc, we will get through this like we do the flu every year. I'm not being insensitive here, I really do feel for the people who are dying and losing loved ones and it is truly tragic for them. But the whole world panicking and forcing global economic collapses, etc will accomplish nothing. The flu averages a half million deaths worldwide every year, where is the global panic for that?

See the problem here is you're taking a deep breath, slowing your decision process, and using common sense to come up with that. We know the world lost its common sense years ago.

But on a serious note, I do agree. People are reacting emotionally. Panic Selling on the stocks, Panic buying of supplies, and spitting out doomsday prophecies about global economic collapses. China is getting back to work. They are recovering and moving on, and we will too...
 
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The bubble had to pop someday and the coronavirus is the needle. We had a trillion dollar deficit last year with a booming economy, this year could dwarf that.

A reminder - we have a new stock market thread now:
 
A reminder - we have a new stock market thread now:
If I post about the coronavirus effect on the economy in the stock market thread I would probably be told to keep it here. They are connected
 
See the problem here is you're taking a deep breath, slowing your decision process, and using common sense to come up with that. We know the world lost its common sense years ago.

But on a serious note, I do agree. People are reacting emotionally. Panic Selling on the stocks, Panic buying of supplies, and spitting out doomsday prophecies about global economic collapses. China is getting back to work. They are recovering and moving on, and we will too...

Reading some on the oil manipulation by SA. They are trying to crash the OPEC and Russia share of the market. The geopolitical pressures could mount and armed conflicts have started this way.

Quite frankly IMO societies are fragile to begin with because man walks a fine line between keeping order or descending into chaos. As long as the everything stays undisturbed then we walk the line. Throw in some kind of major societal disturbance like a natural disaster or pandemic and then geopolitical imbalances then anything is possible.
 
Some good myth debunking here... for example, it's not like the flu



Recap of the studies so far:

It's more contagious than the flu.

It has a higher percentage of hospitalizations than the flu.

There is a higher percentage of deaths than the flu.
 
There hasn't been much focus on South America, but that continent could become a hotbed of infection - limited healthcare facilities & personnel combined with terrible living conditions for millions of poverty stricken people (on a trip to Recife, Brazil I saw a favela where people were living directly adjacent to raw sewage runoff) could mean that there are many, many cases going undiagnosed.

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There hasn't been much focus on South America, but that continent could become a hotbed of infection - limited healthcare facilities & personnel combined with terrible living conditions for millions of poverty stricken people (on a trip to Recife, Brazil I saw a favela where people were living directly adjacent to raw sewage runoff) could mean that there are many, many cases going undiagnosed.

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I have in-laws in Brazil. The seasonal weather change is just beginning. It is very worrying.
 
Some good myth debunking here... for example, it's not like the flu



Recap of the studies so far:

It's more contagious than the flu.

It has a higher percentage of hospitalizations than the flu.

There is a higher percentage of deaths than the flu.

Actually the only one of those three are semi true at this point is death rate being higher than the flu. The reason it’s semi true is because it is definitely more dangerous for older people than the flu. For healthy people under 50 I’m not sure it is as deadly as the flu or at least provable at this point.
 
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Starkist tuna individual packs were on sale today at my local grocery store $1.69 marked down to $0.88.. great variety of flavors..they keep for 2 1/2 years..and I love tuna.. I may or may not have bought 35 ??‍♂️
I always do the 4 can pack great value brand. It’s like 55 cent/can. Then can add bold Texas Pete.
 
Actually the only one of those three are semi true at this point is death rate being higher than the flu. The reason it’s semi true is because it is definitely more dangerous for older people than the flu. For healthy people under 50 I’m not sure it is as deadly as the flu or at least provable at this point.

Did you not read it?

The measure scientists use to determine how easily a virus spreads is known as the "basic reproduction number," or R0 (pronounced R-nought). This is an estimate of the average number of people who catch the virus from a single infected person, Live science previously reported. The flu has an R0 value of about 1.3, according to The New York Times.

Researchers are still working to determine the R0 for COVID-19. Preliminary studies have estimated an R0 value for the new coronavirus to be between 2 and 3, according to the JAMA review study published Feb. 28. This means each infected person has spread the virus to an average of 2 to 3 people.
 
If it can ever come up, Fulton County schools had an employee diagnosed with coronavirus. They dismissed the school in question immediately and are shutting down for tomorrow. Tweets:



 
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So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!
The ember spat out of your fireplace burning underneath the gasoline-soaked dried out Christmas tree in your living room is infinitesimal compared to the fire that destroyed your neighbor's house last year. Think about that!

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o_O If the panic continues there's no telling what might happen economically. I get that this is a new unknown virus, but the global panic is ridiculous. This is not an end of the world, killing everybody it touches, "I Am Legend" type of virus. If people would use common sense, wash hands, stop going places if sick, leave their stocks alone, live life, etc, we will get through this like we do the flu every year. I'm not being insensitive here, I really do feel for the people who are dying and losing loved ones and it is truly tragic for them. But the whole world panicking and forcing global economic collapses, etc will accomplish nothing. The flu averages a half million deaths worldwide every year, where is the global panic for that?
We have a vaccine for the flu. There isn't one for this yet. People have been getting incredibly sick with this virus over a very small amount of time. That's the big difference. A lot of those deaths for the flu would be preventable if people would get the shot.
 
We have a vaccine for the flu. There isn't one for this yet. People have been getting incredibly sick with this virus over a very small amount of time. That's the big difference. A lot of those deaths for the flu would be preventable if people would get the shot.

Supposedly there is a vaccine in phase one of testing but it will take a good deal of time before it's readily available, probably 12-18 months assuming everything moves along quickly.

 
Mike Adam's seen this coming fyi yes natural news sometimes is far out field just like infowars but they get things right a lot of times. My advice go back and see who rang the bell in January and February and listen take with a grain of salt and use common sense
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The owner of the company work for just left a vm saying our banquet is still on in Austin. That the flu is worse. Is not the cases in China and SK decreasing?
 
The owner of the company work for just left a vm saying our banquet is still on in Austin. That the flu is worse. Is not the cases in China and SK decreasing?
They are, allegedly. They have also taken extreme measures to lock down and quarantine vast areas.
 
Did you not read it?

The measure scientists use to determine how easily a virus spreads is known as the "basic reproduction number," or R0 (pronounced R-nought). This is an estimate of the average number of people who catch the virus from a single infected person, Live science previously reported. The flu has an R0 value of about 1.3, according to The New York Times.

Researchers are still working to determine the R0 for COVID-19. Preliminary studies have estimated an R0 value for the new coronavirus to be between 2 and 3, according to the JAMA review study published Feb. 28. This means each infected person has spread the virus to an average of 2 to 3 people.

I did read it and read it when it was first published a week and a half ago. When things are regarded as preliminary or estimated it isn’t fact at least not yet.
 
I chose to skip the banquet. Thing that bothered me about his vm is he seemed so it’s nothing but a flu. Even though a lot of our sales force is 60 and up. We have several near 70. Oh he also referred to the warmer temps will kill it. ??‍♂️
 
They are, allegedly. They have also taken extreme measures to lock down and quarantine vast areas.

yeah lol people keep citing China's cases decreasing, they literally locked down what would be equal to HALF of the US population totally....they actually dumped dump trucks worth of dirt on major roads to prevent people from leaving etc....real end of the world stuff, that is what they had to do to slow it down and stop it.
 

Italian doctors have warned medics across Europe to “get ready” for coronavirus in a letter revealing up to 10 per cent of all those infected with coronavirus need intensive care, with hospitals becoming overwhelmed.

It's interesting Italy's hospitals didn't get overwhelmed with the flu? But this is POTUS last tweet:

"So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that! "
 

That is a crazy read if you want to hear what it's like inside an Italian hospital. Not for the faint of heart. But it's why this needs to be taken so serious.

 
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