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It is interesting to me that it seems the same people that didn’t care about Covid protocol due to the “low death rate” are the same ones that are now suddenly very concerned about the MUCH MUCH lower than that death rate from the vaccines.....
 
It is interesting to me that it seems the same people that didn’t care about Covid protocol due to the “low death rate” are the same ones that are now suddenly very concerned about the MUCH MUCH lower than that death rate from the vaccines.....

There not exactly telling you about all the deaths. Because they want everyone to take this vaccine. But some doctors are coming out on it apparently. When deaths do surge. There going to blame it on a mutant strain of Covid. When in reality it’s the vaccine. But it’s ok to believe what you want to believe. Everyone has that right


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There not exactly telling you about all the deaths. Because they want everyone to take this vaccine. But some doctors are coming out on it apparently. When deaths do surge. There going to blame it on a mutant strain of Covid. When in reality it’s the vaccine. But it’s ok to believe what you want to believe. Everyone has that right


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Sounds like you have already determined that the vaccines are going to kill a lot of people and "they" are going to lie about it .... all without a shread of evidence.
 
Well I’m not saying it’s true but I’m seriously considering the possibility. And I’m honestly scared to death of this vaccine


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Good grief, there is nothing to be scared about with this tech.
 
Started feeling body aches and a low grade fever 14 hours in with the J&J. Took some Tylenol and went to bed. Woke up around 4 this morning and the aches and fever were gone. Feel fine this morning, passed the temp check at work, not even a sore arm where I got the shot.
 

From this AP news link:

“AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The VAERS system is an unverified reporting system that does not determine if a vaccine caused the events that are reported.”

“According to the CDC, VAERS does not determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse events, which can often happen coincidentally after immunization.

VAERS has often been misrepresented by anti-vaccine advocates, and the distribution of a COVID-19 vaccine has brought more attention to the surveillance system.”

In other words, with tens of millions (including a lot being elderly) having received the vaccines, a small % are going to have a decline in health and some will even die due to
causes having nothing to do with the shots. These still would have occurred had they not gotten the shots. Correlation doesn’t equal causation.
 
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Sounds like you have already determined that the vaccines are going to kill a lot of people and "they" are going to lie about it .... all without a shread of evidence.

The evidence is on the cdc website I posted days ago. Data is hard to get to lots of steps but it’s there


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From this AP news link:

“AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The VAERS system is an unverified reporting system that does not determine if a vaccine caused the events that are reported.”

“According to the CDC, VAERS does not determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse events, which can often happen coincidentally after immunization.

VAERS has often been misrepresented by anti-vaccine advocates, and the distribution of a COVID-19 vaccine has brought more attention to the surveillance system.”

In other words, with tens of millions (including a lot being elderly) having received the vaccines, a small % are going to have a decline in health and some will even die due to
causes having nothing to do with the shots. Correlation doesn’t equal causation.

But there’s so many reports. Some of them are surely from this experimental gene therapy.


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My wife got the J&J yesterday around 3pm and she's been sick as a dog since 12:30 last night. She woke up with a migraine and had some vomiting as well.
 

Watch the video in this link it’s long. But the Doctor in it is warning that this vaccine could wipe out the human race. Sources are out there I’m not just making it up


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You really need to learn some critical thinking skills so you don't fall for these crazy sensationalized links.
 
You really need to learn some critical thinking skills so you don't fall for these crazy sensationalized links.

So I’ll ask a yes or no question. No explanation needed just yes it no.

Do you Trust what the Government is telling us about this vaccine?


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So I’ll ask a yes or no question. No explanation needed just yes it no.

Do you Trust what the Government is telling us about this vaccine?


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Yes, the vaccines are fine. Millions have been given them around the world and nothing statistically out of the ordinary from them like any other vaccine.
 
But there’s so many reports. Some of them are surely from this experimental gene therapy.


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What is this experimental gene therapy you’re talking about? I’m talking about vaccines that are there to help end the pandemic. Are we taking about the same thing? You sound like you’re going off on a wild tangent based on misinformation that is widespread. Sometimes I wish Al Gore had not gone through with his invention. ;) (Just a joke as he didn’t really invent it.)
 
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Well I’m not saying it’s true but I’m seriously considering the possibility. And I’m honestly scared to death of this vaccine


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Jessy, It sounds like your hesitation and fear of the vaccine is from a lack of knowledge about vaccinations and how this particular vaccine works. IF that is the case then do some research into it. I don't mean reading a few news articles that support your hypothesis, because you are relying on that particular journalist's research, which may be clouded by their personal feelings or objectives.

When Covid was just ramping up, a professor for virology 101 (not the class title, but you get what where i'm going) at UMASS or Cambridge started posting his lectures for the entire semester on Youtube. I watched them all. He really went into how mRNA was transcribed into the amino acids that formed all the different proteins like the spike protein in Corona Etc... An extremely informative series. I then took this information and paired it with other information about how the immune system worked, and how the vaccine's worked into the process. If I had questions, I went and found the information relating to the subject and formed an opinion. Don't get me wrong, i'm not virologist now, and I KNOW my understanding of things is still simple, but i'm comfortable with the knowledge i have to make a judgement call for myself.

I'm not going to tell you what to think regarding this vaccine, but I will suggest you take a step back and go learn for yourself. No one is forcing you to make a call today or the next 30 days on whether you want these vaccines.
 
My wife got the J&J yesterday around 3pm and she's been sick as a dog since 12:30 last night. She woke up with a migraine and had some vomiting as well.

I was Flu like (fever and aches including headache) for about 12 - 18 hours. Had J&J as well. I didn't start feeling 100% till about 24 hr mark. But these are good signs. Immuno response to the vaccine is good. Means the body is recognizing it, and building that sweet sweet immunity.
 
What is this experimental gene therapy you’re talking about? I’m talking about vaccines that are there to help end the pandemic. Are we taking about the same thing? You sound like you’re going off on a wild tangent based on misinformation that is widespread. Sometimes I wish Al Gore had not gone through with his invention. ;) (Just a joke as he didn’t really invent it.)


The vaccine isn’t really a vaccine it’s a experimental gene therapy. The video in the link is over a hour long. But the facts are this experimental gene therapy that they are calling a vaccine is going to kill millions of people within the next two years. The government is going to lie about it and call it a mutant strain of the virus. But in reality it’s going to be this experimental gene therapy that’s killing people. It’s up to you to believe what you want. I’m just doing my part to pass along the information.


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I was Flu like (fever and aches including headache) for about 12 - 18 hours. Had J&J as well. I didn't start feeling 100% till about 24 hr mark. But these are good signs. Immuno response to the vaccine is good. Means the body is recognizing it, and building that sweet sweet immunity.
I told her it was a good sign. She's just exhausted with a headache now. The aches and chills have subsided.
 
Is anybody having any luck getting scheduled for a vaccine in central NC right now? I'm striking out everywhere I look, even expanding out into other counties. Seems like there's nothing within 100 miles and even coming up empty on the coast.
 
Is anybody having any luck getting scheduled for a vaccine in central NC right now? I'm striking out everywhere I look, even expanding out into other counties. Seems like there's nothing within 100 miles and even coming up empty on the coast.
I'd look at the counties having walkin clinics if you have time
 
Is anybody having any luck getting scheduled for a vaccine in central NC right now? I'm striking out everywhere I look, even expanding out into other counties. Seems like there's nothing within 100 miles and even coming up empty on the coast.

https://gsomassvax.org/ Max Vax site in GSO. Open to public. Watch Sunday night / Monday morning when they publish new appointments.
 

The vaccine isn’t really a vaccine it’s a experimental gene therapy. The video in the link is over a hour long. But the facts are this experimental gene therapy that they are calling a vaccine is going to kill millions of people within the next two years. The government is going to lie about it and call it a mutant strain of the virus. But in reality it’s going to be this experimental gene therapy that’s killing people. It’s up to you to believe what you want. I’m just doing my part to pass along the information.


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Sorry dude, I've read some stupid ---- in my life but this might top it all.
 

The vaccine isn’t really a vaccine it’s a experimental gene therapy. The video in the link is over a hour long. But the facts are this experimental gene therapy that they are calling a vaccine is going to kill millions of people within the next two years. The government is going to lie about it and call it a mutant strain of the virus. But in reality it’s going to be this experimental gene therapy that’s killing people. It’s up to you to believe what you want. I’m just doing my part to pass along the information.


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LOL look at the ---- they are selling on that site. Garbage.
 
Is anybody having any luck getting scheduled for a vaccine in central NC right now? I'm striking out everywhere I look, even expanding out into other counties. Seems like there's nothing within 100 miles and even coming up empty on the coast.

Sign up with Duke Health. It was the last place I signed up with in the past two weeks and they were the first that got back to me with times available.
 

The vaccine isn’t really a vaccine it’s a experimental gene therapy. The video in the link is over a hour long. But the facts are this experimental gene therapy that they are calling a vaccine is going to kill millions of people within the next two years. The government is going to lie about it and call it a mutant strain of the virus. But in reality it’s going to be this experimental gene therapy that’s killing people. It’s up to you to believe what you want. I’m just doing my part to pass along the information.


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This isn't experimental gene therapy.
 
I'm not going to take anything seriously from a site that is offering "China Free" essential oils

Anything essential oil is a no from me. I changed barbers last year because mine was trying to peddle beard oils with essential oils added that would prevent this or that. He had different ones for different ailments. I'm sorry, but we're not preventing cancer by rubbing Rose Bud oil in my facial hair...
 
I'm over the COVID fear-mongering. It's fine if people want to be careful, but there are too many people that are spewing nonsense. If it isn't largely a footnote by this fall that we're living with, well, that is going to suck.

That said, it's apparent you're seeing nonsense spewed by right-wing sources too about the vaccine. As far as I can tell, it's maybe slightly riskier than normal vaccines at most, heck, in one of his statements that he put out recently, Trump said recently that the vaccine is "safe to take". This is a very good move by him, and it'll be even better if he calls into Fox or makes a public appearance and says it.

I've admittedly been a bit of a baby about the vaccine, as long as I continue hearing good things about JNJ, I will likely look to take that vaccine sometime in the medium term.
 
I'm over the COVID fear-mongering. It's fine if people want to be careful, but there are too many people that are spewing nonsense. If it isn't largely a footnote by this fall that we're living with, well, that is going to suck.

That said, it's apparent you're seeing nonsense spewed by right-wing sources too about the vaccine. As far as I can tell, it's maybe slightly riskier than normal vaccines at most, heck, in one of his statements that he put out recently, Trump said recently that the vaccine is "safe to take". This is a very good move by him, and it'll be even better if he calls into Fox or makes a public appearance and says it.

I've admittedly been a bit of a baby about the vaccine, as long as I continue hearing good things about JNJ, I will likely look to take that vaccine sometime in the medium term.
Trump called into Fox News yesterday and he said that the vaccine is safe and effective.
 
I'm over the COVID fear-mongering. It's fine if people want to be careful, but there are too many people that are spewing nonsense. If it isn't largely a footnote by this fall that we're living with, well, that is going to suck.

That said, it's apparent you're seeing nonsense spewed by right-wing sources too about the vaccine. As far as I can tell, it's maybe slightly riskier than normal vaccines at most, heck, in one of his statements that he put out recently, Trump said recently that the vaccine is "safe to take". This is a very good move by him, and it'll be even better if he calls into Fox or makes a public appearance and says it.

I've admittedly been a bit of a baby about the vaccine, as long as I continue hearing good things about JNJ, I will likely look to take that vaccine sometime in the medium term.

Well this is strictly my opinion. But because it’s actual doctors saying this stuff. I’m gonna chose to believe this is a dangerous vaccine. Now anyone can believe what they want to that’s fine. But the last people I believe is the government. I don’t even believe Trump and you know I’m a strong supporter of Trump


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Well this is strictly my opinion. But because it’s actual doctors saying this stuff. I’m gonna chose to believe this is a dangerous vaccine. Now anyone can believe what they want to that’s fine. But the last people I believe is the government. I don’t even believe Trump and you know I’m a strong supporter of Trump


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Yolo
 

More news on the vaccine


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I'm over the COVID fear-mongering. It's fine if people want to be careful, but there are too many people that are spewing nonsense. If it isn't largely a footnote by this fall that we're living with, well, that is going to suck.

That said, it's apparent you're seeing nonsense spewed by right-wing sources too about the vaccine. As far as I can tell, it's maybe slightly riskier than normal vaccines at most, heck, in one of his statements that he put out recently, Trump said recently that the vaccine is "safe to take". This is a very good move by him, and it'll be even better if he calls into Fox or makes a public appearance and says it.

I've admittedly been a bit of a baby about the vaccine, as long as I continue hearing good things about JNJ, I will likely look to take that vaccine sometime in the medium term.


The JNJ sounds appealing since it is just one shot. But my dental hygienist, who got one of the other company's shots, said that JNJ is a good bit less effective % wise because it is just one shot. She was saying like 67% vs 90% or whatever. That surprised me, Do you know if that's true?
 
There not exactly telling you about all the deaths. Because they want everyone to take this vaccine. But some doctors are coming out on it apparently. When deaths do surge. There going to blame it on a mutant strain of Covid. When in reality it’s the vaccine. But it’s ok to believe what you want to believe. Everyone has that right


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Everyone doesn’t have the right to spread false and unsubstantiated claims, which is exactly what you’re doing.

It’s fine if you don’t want it, we get it, but please don’t post unreliable sources to convince others that the vaccines are causing the death and not the new strains, or what we you just said. It’s unsubstantiated and it’s reckless. You’re doing more harm than good, and it’s not a stretch to say you may directly influence someone’s choice not to get it — and god forbid they get covid and die. If that were to happen, it’s on you.

This thread needs a fact checking moderator. Needed one a long time ago. This is getting way past harmless weather posts.
 
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Watch the video in this link it’s long. But the Doctor in it is warning that this vaccine could wipe out the human race. Sources are out there I’m not just making it up


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Stop spreading this -------- dude. If you knew the science — you wouldn’t believe it yourself. I literally have 8 years of college. I took courses on biochemistry, immunology, genetics, microbiology, and chemistry. I took graduate level courses in immunology and biochemistry. I know more about vaccines than anyone on this forum. I PROMISE TO YOU this shot isn’t as dangerous as you and these people are making it out to be. This is conspiracy level crap and you need to stop. I’d say it’s laughable but it’s not even funny.

We are so close to getting this behind us.
We need to trust the science.
We need people vaccinated.
 
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