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Thinking about my wifes case at work and how we need to handle these things. It would be prudent to test all staff and residents and the staffs families to cast as wide a net as possible to stop any secondary infections.
 
The Trump administration has ordered the hospitals to stop reporting data to the CDC and instead to a central database in DC.
 
Heelyes said:
I believe the plan is to have less kids per class to reduce exposure. I think you're right, it should be all or nothing. If it's too dangerous for everyone to go together, schools should be closed.
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As with everything else I think it is far more complicated then a blanket "schools should be closed" approach. As someone who manages employees in the Public Safety field, I can tell you, it becomes a logistical nightmare maintaining operations when schools are closed. I know safety is paramount, but consider there are many individuals that work LEO, EMS, Fire, hospitals, highway construction, utilities, food delivery, etc all vital to the safety and well being of all of us, that have elementary school aged children. Now shutdown schools and these individuals have to plan accordingly, often times, having to take off work to stay home with their children, and loss work days in those fields create additional potentially dangerous situations due to staff shortages.... it's a complicated ripple effect. I'm really not advocating one way or the other but providing an additional vantage point if you will.
 
Best Buy is now requiring customers to wear a mask.https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/business/best-buy-mask-requirement/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_source=twcnnbrk&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-07-14T18%3A23%3A06
 
Hopefully local news still report what they have if they've been reporting. At last look Corona involved hospitalizations were up but from my knowledge it still looked manageable. Just looked again and as of 2 days ago it's about the same at best but it's still manageable, the hospital close to Columbia County might be starting to get iffy though as it's not as big as MCG or combining two different hospitals that are downtown/uptown (for now I'm going to assume one group is two hospitals as there's two by the same name in the county).

Honestly surprised it's not quite a bit more yet because I'd assume that this area is a bit of a center for surrounding rural areas.

Edit: I might have lied. I only have true information on the amount of inpatients. Not anything more.
 
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GaWx said:
I got this excellent link from @pcbjr regarding a model from Ga Tech that estimates the risk levels of someone with Covid being at an event based on county and # of people at said event:


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That's just the chance that someone in the group has the Wuhan virus. That doesn't establish the risk of catching the Wuhan illness from the gathering.
 
Snowfan said:
Best Buy is now requiring customers to wear a mask.https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/business/best-buy-mask-requirement/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_source=twcnnbrk&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-07-14T18%3A23%3A06
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Order online at somewhere else but Best Buy...Best Buy can go bankrupt.
 
Shaggy said:
Thinking about my wifes case at work and how we need to handle these things. It would be prudent to test all staff and residents and the staffs families to cast as wide a net as possible to stop any secondary infections.
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Why do we want to stop infections? Vulnerable people should take precautions, the healthy need to get the virus, stat! The sooner they do, the sooner this thing extinguishes itself, right?
 
weatherfide said:
Why do we want to stop infections? Vulnerable people should take precautions, the healthy need to get the virus, stat! The sooner they do, the sooner this thing extinguishes itself, right?
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Not if you believe the studies out of Spain and UK that shows immunity collapses after a couple months and is weaker in cases of minor infections.

Herd immunity is looking more and more doubtful.
 
Shaggy said:
Not if you believe the studies out of Spain and UK that shows immunity collapses after a couple months and is weaker in cases of minor infections.

Herd immunity is looking more and more doubtful.
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But the virus is also becoming less lethal. Look at Georgia's deaths by all causes. the numbers for June are below 2019's average by 300 to 700 people. Even with spiking cases, we have below average "all cause" deaths. Why is that? I hypothesize it's because the weak and vulnerable were taken during the above average time frames from late November through May. They weren't above average by much, by the way, about 5% above average for 2019. It's a bad flu season and not a raging pandemic of some kind of crazy killer virus. We way over-reacted. Now the economic pain is going to kill and crush the world's poor and even erode the middle class fiercely.

I blame Trump for this over-reaction, by the way. He was not wise enough to consider all information and chose the political advantage over the good of the world. He should have taken the political sacrifice and stood strong for the global good! He was in a catch-22, but because he is so narcissistic, he thought he chose the best thing for himself. For a brief moment, he was aligned with the left and that's when I knew he made a terrible mistake.
 
Shaggy said:
Not if you believe the studies out of Spain and UK that shows immunity collapses after a couple months and is weaker in cases of minor infections.

Herd immunity is looking more and more doubtful.
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If Herd immunity goes out the window, then we shall see Spain, Italy, Uk on the rise again soon enough, along with New York, New Jersey, and the rest of the NorthEast.
 
smast16 said:
If Herd immunity goes out the window, then we shall see Spain, Italy, Uk on the rise again soon enough, along with New York, New Jersey, and the rest of the NorthEast.
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Yep and then we're going to be watching, and hoping that either because of the T-cells that were built up, they don't get as sick, or the virus is mutating to be weaker.

@metwannabe had a good point, I thought the hospitals in my area didn't look totally awful, but others are saying the ICUs are all full. I have to wonder if it's because of other things as well. These are a couple big hospitals and likely serve rural areas as well... Either way, I won't know for 100% unless I'm there.
 
Starting to worry here as I have some mild covid like symptoms. Raw sore throat feeling but nothing terrible. Just bad enough to worry me. We've had a few cases at work and now the exposure at my wifes work so maybe it's all in my head? My wife did look at my throat and said its red. Perhaps I'll go through the drive thru test sites tomorrow if nothing gets better.

This virus sucks. These vague symptoms are making it hard to sort through what's really going on.
 
Shaggy said:
Starting to worry here as I have some mild covid like symptoms. Raw sore throat feeling but nothing terrible. Just bad enough to worry me. We've had a few cases at work and now the exposure at my wifes work so maybe it's all in my head? My wife did look at my throat and said its red. Perhaps I'll go through the drive thru test sites tomorrow if nothing gets better.

This virus sucks. These vague symptoms are making it hard to sort through what's really going on.
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Seems like I read somewhere that medical folks think we'll all eventually get this virus. That's scary. I guess that's why keeping the curve down is important; but it means we'll all be part of that curve in the future.
 
Shaggy said:
Not if you believe the studies out of Spain and UK that shows immunity collapses after a couple months and is weaker in cases of minor infections.

Herd immunity is looking more and more doubtful.
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That isn't a surprise. It's basically just supporting the previous studies of coronavirus, influenza and rhinovirus There are many instances where a patient can recover from virus (colds, flu) with less severe symptom, and then relapse if they've compromised their immune system (i.e. alcohol consumption). In regards to immunizations, various patients are subject to combination vaccines or multiple inoculations spread out over two months for various viruses, and a first time flu shot patient is supposed to receive the vaccine twice within several months. Even allergy shots are given over a six week period so a persons immune system can adjust to greater allergen loads over time.

The real scary part part for populations that have been sheltering from Covid-19 is that they aren't being exposed to any of the more common, seasonal viruses, which may be more severe then previous years. There also seems to be a trend of more diverse influenza viruses around the world, and scientists are concerned that some of these strains will be able to evade immune response. Adding to the chaos is the lower influenza immunizations in Europe and the United States, which makes sense considering the limited access to Doctor offices during the pandemic.
 
Downeastnc said:
Yeah this is just terrible, this is Trump trying to control the information......hospitals need to ignore this.
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See story above. Whole collection of data, to make annalysis is cobulated. Not intenional by anyone. But its so inconsistent and skewed. Hospitilazations,actual causes of death, posotive test. These metrics cant be used to annalyze just how serious or laize fare the virus has become.
 
FallsLake said:
Seems like I read somewhere that medical folks think we'll all eventually get this virus. That's scary. I guess that's why keeping the curve down is important; but it means we'll all be part of that curve in the future.
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I had a visit (regular check-up) with my PCP yesterday and we had an extended convo about it. To paraphrase: COVID-19 is not going anywhere anytime soon; 98% +/- of us will not die from it; I have some underlying conditions but he's not worried about me (being 47 and not 77); thinks this will be around in the future like the flu and we will co-exist with it when a tried and true vaccination becomes available.
 
NCSNOW said:
See story above. Whole collection of data, to make annalysis is cobulated. Not intenional by anyone. But its so inconsistent and skewed. Hospitilazations,actual causes of death, posotive test. These metrics cant be used to annalyze just how serious or laize fare the virus has become.
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I personally don't understand why the positive test percentage is such a big deal. Can someone splain?
 
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9.4% looks better then 100%. From what I can tell these labs in Florida didn’t add the negative test. So it’s kinda fake news to make the areas seem worse.
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It makes the percentage high by omitting the negative tests but the only thing that matters are if the positive number of cases is accurate? Is it?
 
Heelyes said:
Why are we the only country that has a hard time accepting this virus is a real threat and not going anywhere? This country is the only place you have people openly questioning weather masks work or if the virus is actually dangerous. We look silly and it gets worse with each day.
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We are probably not the only country that questions everything but thankfully we have that right in America.
 
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