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NoSnowATL
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I did as well, he would have been great. Better then Trump 1000x
Yep and when it does, my visits to stores will just about completely end. If the government wants to supply me with N95 masks, I’ll comply, but I’m not wearing a cloth one at least not more than five minutes.
NoSnowATL
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Yep I order just about everything online now. Food, clothes etc... I just want all the outdoors activities to stay open.
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A teacher in our daycare has tested positive and she is definitely sick. We are closing for two weeks. I hate COVID.
So DPH states that it’s shutting many of its testing sites down over the holiday weekend....doesn’t seem like a great time for that......
Brent
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Unfortunately I'm essential with already "mandated" masks and been working throughout but I'll be honest I've been wearing mine on my chin most of the time lately and so do a lot of employees and managers and nobody was saying anything about it... And that's not even touching all the customers I've seen without them(I wanna see them enforce that) and again there's been no restrictions on the crowds inside insert store here
All the more reason I am counting down to the beach on the 20th lol
I’m sure those people need a break too. A lot stand in the heat all day shoving swabs down peoples noses.
For the first time ever, there are over 200,000 new worldwide cases of the coronavirus.
Oh, I totally agree, but the hope would be that we had enough people to rotate out and still keep testing going, especially during the thick of it here.
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Walked out of a store today wearing a mask and as I walked past this dude mumbles to his wife that the whole world is turning in to a bunch of pussies. Watched that Meanie butt ----- put a seat belt on when he got in his car. I drove home drunk with no seat belt. Whose the Meanie butt now.
That is what I think is absolutely nuts. I could definitely see the point of masks(even cloth masks) *if you were limited to spending 15 minutes in the store. But the more likely scenario is it will give people a false sense of security and they will stand closer to others and spend much longer in the stores with very damp masks.
NoSnowATL
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What? You drove home drunk?
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Haha no that part was a joke.
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Seriously though I don't get the whole you are a Meanie butt if you wear a mask. Today was the first time someone said to to me - granted under his breath but I'm sure he was waiting for me or the dozens of people he has likely said it to before me to say something back. I have a 3 year old with kidney issues who spent alot of time in hospital last year. I don't neef this ---- in my house
You do whatever the heck you want to do.
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I am. Still don't get the part of society that thinks wearing a mask makes you a Meanie butt. Maybe this was a one off.
I wear a mask in certain situations and if someone said something to me I would knock the hell out of them. That's horrible. If I had a sick child you better believe I would wear a mask as soon as I stepped out of my door.
NoSnowATL
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NoSnowATL
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I need to read more on the CDC site.
Uh oh here we go again, big hospital study in Michigan touting HCQ as reducing mortality.
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In the end that would solve nothing. He will still be a piece of ---- and I may end up in jail.
I've seen mutiple studies that says HCQ doesn't help at all. The FDA even stopped doing trials for it.
I agree I probably wouldn't do anything either but I would want to.
Well add this to the ones that do.
Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds
Heads of the Michigan health system said Thursday the study found the drug “significantly” decreased the death rate of patients
www.google.com
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Yea I considered saying something but figured he was looking for a fight. I'd rather just go home without swelling in my fist or face depending on how it turned out.
NoSnowATL
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NoSnowATL
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So if he is “right” Shouldn’t we be going by positive test not cases? I’m trying to learn how this works.
I've also heard that each test positive is counted. For instance if you are positive and have to be negative to go back to work, each positive test goes in the daily positive count.
If that's the case no wonder this country is going nuts.
Jon
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I’d say they’re typically over prescribed. 90% of people taking them long term don’t need to be. It’s important though that those 10% don’t quit them because they’re told so without evaluating their clinical picture or diagnosis. So I’d ask your doctor first if there’s a reason you/your friend is still on it, and if it’s OK to stop.
As far as discontinuing, a taper over several weeks is needed.
Check out this document: https://ahpnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/PPI-Deprescribing2.pdf
It’s written by PharmD’s so I recommend it
it’s a good summary. As far as the H2 antagonist (ranitidine/Zantac) in the article, that was pulled from the market. I’d recommend Famotidine 20mg for rebound reflux in its place.*
(*Also as always, this is what I would recommend and doesn’t signify actual medical advice given by me, as I do not hold a provider/patient relationship with anyone on this forum or the individual who’s post I replied to)
ForsythSnow
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Until I see what's on the CDC's website, I don't trust it. Something feels fishy about the post if he doesn't show exactly where it is on their site. Seems about as stupid as the whole counting every death as a covid case thing which doesn't line up at all if you look at how many people actually die a day in general.
NoSnowATL
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I’m going to try to find it and see if it’s true because if it is.... we are being played big time.
ForsythSnow
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From what I can tell on this page, it pretty much debunks the tweet. Cases that are put out are confirmed cases. They classify confirmed cases as ones with lab results being positive. Take a look at Georgia's cases. Yes, they're counting antibody tests in there, but the numbers don't seem to add up to the tweet still.
Surveillance Case Definitions for Current and Historical Conditions
A surveillance case definition is a set of uniform criteria used to define a disease for public health surveillance in order to classify and count cases.
wwwn.cdc.gov
COVID-19 Status Report
These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.
This is correct. Georgia specifically only counts molecular positives as a case. They separate out antibody tests too, so the daily case count is new positive cases, however you can track the antibody testing further down the page.From what I can tell on this page, it pretty much debunks the tweet. Cases that are put out are confirmed cases. They classify confirmed cases as ones with lab results being positive. Take a look at Georgia's cases. Yes, they're counting antibody tests in there, but the numbers don't seem to add up to the tweet still.
Surveillance Case Definitions for Current and Historical Conditions
A surveillance case definition is a set of uniform criteria used to define a disease for public health surveillance in order to classify and count cases.COVID-19 Status Report
These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.dph.georgia.gov
Also, speaking from my specific area of expertise, it is a common response in a crisis for the human mind to look for a reason why things are not as bad as they appear, and to normalize.
Not that we don’t need to be vigilant with new information and fact check, but I’d be suspicious of random twitter posts uncovering a reason no one else has as to why the current state of affairs is actually no cause for concern. This is not directed at anyone in particular, just musings.
Not that we don’t need to be vigilant with new information and fact check, but I’d be suspicious of random twitter posts uncovering a reason no one else has as to why the current state of affairs is actually no cause for concern. This is not directed at anyone in particular, just musings.
NoSnowATL
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Yes he is a MLB pitcher.
Tornadocane
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We’re getting a pretty clear picture of the current Covid-19 outbreaks from the trends in state demographics of Covid-19 patients, as well as the statistical and anecdotal reports from hospitals and MDs. The head line in the below news source accurately and bluntly states, “Confirmed cases are rapidly rising among minorities, young people”.
https://komonews.com/news/local/new...-rising-fastest-among-minorities-young-people
In the South, Covid-19 is hammering black communities. Hospitals in my home state of Florida are noticing that African Americans have started to comprise a majority of patients with confirmed cases. African American communities around Atlanta, Georgia have also been hit, but the most striking data is the Covid-19 hotspots in rural counties (cases per 100k) with a majority or significant minority of African Americans. The news reports from these counties seem to describe the African American community being hardest hit. According to studies that have analyzed the data, “The higher the percentage of Black residents in a county, the higher its death rate from Covid-19 — even after accounting for income, health insurance coverage, rates of diabetes and obesity, and public transit use, finds a new study by researchers at the MIT Sloan School of Management.”
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/15/whos-dying-of-covid19-look-to-social-factors-like-race/
Some could point to other counties with smaller African American populations such as Echols County, but many times run into stories about outbreaks that affect a significant amount of migrant workers.
https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/...cle_d94166bc-9b67-11ea-a29a-a7e31eca372f.html
These outbreaks in migrant communities aren’t just some phenomenon in Georgia. It’s happening across in many Southern States like Texas, California, North Carolina and Florida. As work begins to dry up and migrant workers realize the risks outweigh rewards at Southern farmhouses, researchers, per the NY Times article, are starting to sound the alarm about a considerable amount of these workers deciding to find opportunity in the Northeast. In the Forbes article, a study indicates the spread of Covid-19 along interstate highways that puts weight to the study in the NY Times article, which also quotes a migrant worker describing her decision to travel for work in NJ and NY via I-95.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/us/florida-coronavirus-immokalee-farmworkers.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzann...state-highways-per-new-research/#28c0371b6f05
https://komonews.com/news/local/new...-rising-fastest-among-minorities-young-people
In the South, Covid-19 is hammering black communities. Hospitals in my home state of Florida are noticing that African Americans have started to comprise a majority of patients with confirmed cases. African American communities around Atlanta, Georgia have also been hit, but the most striking data is the Covid-19 hotspots in rural counties (cases per 100k) with a majority or significant minority of African Americans. The news reports from these counties seem to describe the African American community being hardest hit. According to studies that have analyzed the data, “The higher the percentage of Black residents in a county, the higher its death rate from Covid-19 — even after accounting for income, health insurance coverage, rates of diabetes and obesity, and public transit use, finds a new study by researchers at the MIT Sloan School of Management.”
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/15/whos-dying-of-covid19-look-to-social-factors-like-race/
Some could point to other counties with smaller African American populations such as Echols County, but many times run into stories about outbreaks that affect a significant amount of migrant workers.
https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/...cle_d94166bc-9b67-11ea-a29a-a7e31eca372f.html
These outbreaks in migrant communities aren’t just some phenomenon in Georgia. It’s happening across in many Southern States like Texas, California, North Carolina and Florida. As work begins to dry up and migrant workers realize the risks outweigh rewards at Southern farmhouses, researchers, per the NY Times article, are starting to sound the alarm about a considerable amount of these workers deciding to find opportunity in the Northeast. In the Forbes article, a study indicates the spread of Covid-19 along interstate highways that puts weight to the study in the NY Times article, which also quotes a migrant worker describing her decision to travel for work in NJ and NY via I-95.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/us/florida-coronavirus-immokalee-farmworkers.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzann...state-highways-per-new-research/#28c0371b6f05
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