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smast16 said:
I'm afraid I don't know the movie reference.
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They Shoot Horses, Don't They? is a 1969 American neo noir drama film directed by Sydney Pollack, starring Jane Fonda, Michael Sarrazin, Susannah York, Red Buttons, Bruce Dern, Bonnie Bedelia and Gig Young. The screenplay, adapted from Horace McCoy's 1935 novel of the same name, was written by James Poe and Robert E. Thompson. The film focuses on a disparate group of characters desperate to win a Depression-era dance marathon and the opportunistic emcee who urges them on.
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Robert Syverton (Michael Sarrazin), who had once dreamed of becoming a great film director, recalls the events leading to an unstated crime. In his youth, he saw a horse break its leg, after which it was shot and put out of its misery. Years later, in 1932 during the Great Depression, he wanders into a dance marathon about to begin in the shabby La Monica Ballroom, perched over the Pacific Ocean on the Santa Monica Pier, near Los Angeles. He is recruited by MC Rocky (Gig Young) as a substitute partner for a cynical malcontent named Gloria (Jane Fonda), when her original partner is disqualified because of an ominous cough.
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Weeks into the marathon, in order to spark the paying spectators' enthusiasm, Rocky stages a series of derbies in which the exhausted contestants, clad in track suits, must race around the dance floor, with the last three couples eliminated. Harry has a fatal heart attack during one of the races, but the undeterred Gloria lifts him on her back and crosses the finish line. Harry dies as Gloria drags him. Alice, who witnesses his death, has a breakdown and is taken away.
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The two leave the dance hall and stand on the pier, overlooking the ocean. Gloria confesses how empty she is inside and tells Robert that she wants to kill herself, but when she takes out a gun and points it at herself, she cannot pull the trigger. Desperate, she asks Robert, "Help me." He obliges, and shoots her in the head, killing her. Questioned by the police as to the motive for his action, Robert responds: "They shoot horses, don't they?"
 
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26 to 49 cases in one day. Better hope doubling every day does not occur or we all dead folks. Interesting week to watch.
 
Tyson Wilkesboro announces doubling of bonuses...moves up July payout to May and adds additional short term disability coverage.
 
I know some...(HIPPA LAW) that are going to grocery stores when they have been ORDERED to quarantine. Like really they could have at least used curb side pickup or something
 
Freezers online at Home Depot for backorder some models you could get at end of August maybe. Gonna be even harder I imagine to find one once flu season is here.
 
So, now Sweden is the "model" approach according to WHO?

This will come as news to some posters who had already decided that the model approach was to stay-at-home. Hmmm...

www.nydailynews.com

WHO emergency expert says Sweden could be ‘future model’ for coronavirus policy

Sweden, which has received ample criticism for keeping much of society running during the coronavirus pandemic, garnered some praise Wednesday from a top official at the World Health Organization. …
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For the record, it's still too early to know what societal mitigation approach is "best" at this point. There are different models and to blindly assume the one we've taken is the 100% correct approach seems foolish to me. Maybe it is, but we don't know that at this point.

Again, I still don't have any problem with states/counties/towns implementing SAH orders as they had to appear to "do something" and decisions were made with public's best interest in mind, but as more and more data comes in regarding alternative approaches we should be willing to adapt...
 
Uncwmark said:
So, now Sweden is the "model" approach according to WHO?

This will come as news to some posters who had already decided that the model approach was to stay-at-home. Hmmm...

www.nydailynews.com

WHO emergency expert says Sweden could be ‘future model’ for coronavirus policy

Sweden, which has received ample criticism for keeping much of society running during the coronavirus pandemic, garnered some praise Wednesday from a top official at the World Health Organization. …
www.nydailynews.com www.nydailynews.com

For the record, it's still too early to know what societal mitigation approach is "best" at this point. There are different models and to blindly assume the one we've taken is the 100% correct approach seems foolish to me. Maybe it is, but we don't know that at this point.

Again, I still don't have any problem with states/counties/towns implementing SAH orders as they had to appear to "do something" and decisions were made with public's best interest in mind, but as more and more data comes in regarding alternative approaches we should be willing to adapt...
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Hopefully this will be looked at this fall if there is a flareup of the virus like predicted.
 
Ghost said:
Hopefully this will be looked at this fall if there is a flareup of the virus like predicted.
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Actually France top epidemiologist is saying there will be no second wave. Laura ingrahm show played sound bites from him compared to Faucci who says there will be 2cnd wave. French guy is held in highest regard like Faucci. French Doc says as this fades off thats it. Two polar opposite opinions, which is it? Was a good segment to watch
 
NCSNOW said:
Actually France top epidemiologist is saying there will be no second wave. Laura ingrahm show played sound bites from him compared to Faucci who says there will be 2cnd wave. French guy is held in highest regard like Faucci. French Doc says as this fades off thats it. Two polar opposite opinions, which is it? Was a good segment to watch
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Well one means being prepared the other means playing catchup if a 2nd wave does hit.

Which one would you rather it be?
 
Shaggy said:
Well one means being prepared the other means playing catchup if a 2nd wave does hit.

Which one would you rather it be?
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Sounds like a hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I hope that if there is a 2nd wave, we are much more prepared and that we hopefully have drugs that can help with battling the virus.
 
marino13882 said:
Sounds like a hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I hope that if there is a 2nd wave, we are much more prepared and that we hopefully have drugs that can help with battling the virus.
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Like every winter storm around here, LOL. :)
 
Feel like we’re delaying the inevitable. NC cases keep trending up and we are 5 weeks into this lockdown. Millions have lost there jobs, businesses shutting doors forever. When in history has mankind been able to hide from a virus. I would expect Cooper to push the date back a couple of weeks at his 3pm update.
 
KyloG said:
Feel like we’re delaying the inevitable. NC cases keep trending up and we are 5 weeks into this lockdown. Millions have lost there jobs, businesses shutting doors forever. When in history has mankind been able to hide from a virus. I would expect Cooper to push the date back a couple of weeks at his 3pm update.
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He says he's optimistic we can move to phase 1 next week.
 
Yep NC is reopening despite not meeting earlier criteria. Throw earlier guidelines out the window. Those were for big metro but now that rural areas are going up they realize one size don’t fit all. LMAO
 
because why shutdown Charlotte or Raleigh if Wilkesboro is going up? Funny how Wilkesboro had to shutdown when Charlotte and Raleigh were going up. $$ talks
 
Wow Kemp is actually doing exactly what I suggested (which may not be a great thing to some people):

www.wrdw.com

Gov. Brian Kemp is lifting shelter-in-place order for many Georgians

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp will lift the shelter-in-place order for most state residents beginning on Friday.
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Lifted shelter in place except for extending it for the elderly and medically fragile until June 12th. I like trying to stick with a shelter in place for the higher risk populations from here when there's trouble. It may not work as there are issues here, but it's worth a try.

Needless to say, unless we end up having to retract, we "might" head off to La Fayette, GA anyway early in June. My grandma on my mom's side is pretty risky health wise, but I feel like if we ask, she's going to say things that are on the line of: "I'm old anyway, I would rather see y'all than not" because I've already seen her do similar in other cases. I watched my mom question her eating something that gave her issues, and she gave the oh forget it/phooey sign with her hand, then said how old she was.

I also scheduled myself for a hair appointment 2 weeks from now. I will need to sign a waiver, and they're only having 1-2 clients in.
 
Snowfan said:
Governor of California has announced closure of all beaches in Orange County.
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I don’t get this. As long as people don’t congregate in large groups, the beach should be one of the better places to be. Lots of sun, lots of room, open air....closing beaches is going to piss people off and make them stop following the guidelines.
 
KyloG said:
Feel like we’re delaying the inevitable. NC cases keep trending up and we are 5 weeks into this lockdown. Millions have lost there jobs, businesses shutting doors forever. When in history has mankind been able to hide from a virus. I would expect Cooper to push the date back a couple of weeks at his 3pm update.
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I’m starting to hear more chatter among colleagues including myself that we need to slowly lift restrictions sooner than later.

The Facebook video floating around about the MD touting the immune system being weak to everything is a bunch of baloney, but with that said, we can’t stay quarantined all year. He touts he’s taken a lot of immunology and biochemistry and I myself have too — probably around the same amount. The thought that your immune system suddenly forgets how to defend your body after a couple of months of quarantine is utter nonsense. That’s not how it works. In principle it’s a decent thought, yeah you want some type of herd immunity without a vaccine this fall, but his take is an extreme one.

I think the timeline needs to be shortened a bit, considering case count will go up with more testing. Hospitals are fine and they can continue to monitor with the phases... Old and immunocompromised stay home. If that’s not done by June we are just extending it too long imo.
 
superjames1992 said:
I don’t get this. As long as people don’t congregate in large groups, the beach should be one of the better places to be. Lots of sun, lots of room, open air....closing beaches is going to piss people off and make them stop following the guidelines.
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I think they were in large groups that’s why he’s closing again.
 
superjames1992 said:
Hmm, don’t see how we meet any of the criteria for phase 1 in the next couple weeks. Then again, the criteria were pretty stringent.
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Dr. Cohen hinted at that by saying the number of tests are increasing but the % of infections are going down even though the 7 day rolling averages are trending higher.
 
Once we reopen it’s time to prepare. Cleaning supplies, food, freezer, etc before Fall gets here. I hope the government or media at least encourages the public to have a safety net instead of a mad dash.
 
KyloG said:
Dr. Cohen hinted at that by saying the number of tests are increasing but the % of infections are going down even though the 7 day rolling averages are trending higher.
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Yeah but shouldnt that be expected? If you're only testing the sickest patients like NC has been then % of infection per test should also go down as we test more possible cases versus suspected cases?
 
Jon said:
I’m starting to hear more chatter among colleagues including myself that we need to slowly lift restrictions sooner than later.

The Facebook video floating around about the MD touting the immune system being weak to everything is a bunch of baloney, but with that said, we can’t stay quarantined all year. He touts he’s taken a lot of immunology and biochemistry and I myself have too — probably around the same amount. The thought that your immune system suddenly forgets how to defend your body after a couple of months of quarantine is utter nonsense. That’s not how it works. In principle it’s a decent thought, yeah you want some type of herd immunity without a vaccine this fall, but his take is an extreme one.

I think the timeline needs to be shortened a bit, considering case count will go up with more testing. Hospitals are fine and they can continue to monitor with the phases... Old and immunocompromised stay home. If that’s not done by June we are just extending it too long imo.
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That's interesting...seems more and more people are thinking herd immunity and isolating immune-compromised and elderly. It will be interesting to see how Sweden comes out of this.
 
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Prepare by spacing kids apart at school. Maybe hire more teachers. Prepare by having less kids on the school bus if possible.
 
Prepare to have all Black Friday sales online or through pre order.
 
Prepare churches to have proper cleaning supplies and plexi glass. They have been closed and forgotten. Long benches just won’t work.
 
Prepare gas stations with an extra worker to fill up everyone’s gas during busy hours. If they can afford $4 pay raise surely they could?
 
Shaggy said:
Yeah but shouldnt that be expected? If you're only testing the sickest patients like NC has been then % of infection per test should also go down as we test more possible cases versus suspected cases?
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Yeah, agree. The lack of testing in March/April could have skewed the numbers too.
 
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