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The Tyson plant in Wilkesboro does their daily temperature checks in this little guard shack with people crammed in side by side. I wish the media would document the process I bet health experts would be FLOORED.
 
I'm gonna be honest, the report in at least Georgia is that the beaches haven't re-closed since they were re-opened surprisingly and there doesn't seem to be much interest in going. The Florida shots are inconclusive though. Aerial looks bad but you'd need to see the ground.
 
Poimen said:
Not only is it the deadliest day, but by my count today has been one of the highest for reported new cases—some 400 today.

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Coronavirus in NC - April 17 updates

Here are the latest updates on the impact of the coronavirus outbreak in North Carolina and across the globe.
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So many new cases despite social distancing ? Im confused ?
 
Dewpoint Dan said:
Great news. Bring on the heat and humidity.

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Sunlight destroys virus quickly, new govt. tests find, but experts say pandemic could last through summer

Preliminary results from government lab experiments show that the coronavirus does not survive long under high-temperature, high-humidity conditions, and is quickly destroyed by sunlight, providing evidence from controlled tests of what scientists believed — but had not yet proved — to be true.
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Of course. To varying degrees, all viruses are killed by UV light, hot temperatures, and wet environments, particularly when outside of a host. For that very reason, I told my sister three weeks ago that she could use her face mask that was left inside the car by the window facing the hot Florida sun. She retorted that CNN said sunlight and heat wouldn't work. The best science at the time indicates that all those elements kills viruses. Bacterias on the other hand, can survive in wet, higher heat environments. If you have the cold, flu, or any other virus, you do all the following: drink plenty of hot liquids, walk outside, use a humidifier, wash your hands, open the blinds, take multiple hot showers, stay warm, etc. etc. etc.

We have had multiple news organizations and fact-checkers telling people the opposite, quoting scientists that say they "don't know" to leave an impression that it wouldn't work. However, based on what research has shown about viruses, all the aforementioned elements are known to kill viruses. Even without absolute evidence, people should have been informed that the aforementioned elements are effective for aiding symptoms of a virus, in addition to killing viruses. Since this is a virus that attacks the lower respiratory system, inhaling very warm/hot vapor should have been advised. I like to breath in water vapor when I'm drinking soup or tea, and that was an effective way of bringing up a lot of mucous when I had pneumonia. Just to clarify, I'm not saying breath in scorching hot steam that will cause damage tissue damage.
www.usatoday.com

Fact check: Sunlight does not kill the new coronavirus

A claim widely circulated on social media says sunlight kills the new coronavirus. We rate this claim false.
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www.cnn.com

Coronavirus myths and misinformation, debunked

No, the new coronavirus wasn't made in a lab and eating garlic won't prevent you from getting infected. Here's the reality on some of the bizarre claims.
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When we open things up and all get back together, we're going to be right where we were before this thing took off...maybe a little farther along since more people have the virus now. Opening back up seems like shutting down in the first place was dumb. I don't know.
 
Rain Cold said:
When we open things up and all get back together, we're going to be right where we were before this thing took off...maybe a little farther along since more people have the virus now. Opening back up seems like shutting down in the first place was dumb. I don't know.
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Not sure there is a correct way forward. All are painful......but one could prove deadly. We open up without testing and tracing then this 2nd wave hits harder than we want it to.
 
Rain Cold said:
When we open things up and all get back together, we're going to be right where we were before this thing took off...maybe a little farther along since more people have the virus now. Opening back up seems like shutting down in the first place was dumb. I don't know.
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you have to slowly expose more and more people to the virus. At first we were told we’ll flatten the curve so we don’t overwhelm the hospital system. Well we did and the hospitals aren’t overrun.
We are waiting for the magical vaccine that may or may not work on an undetermined timeframe. It’s ridiculous.

some vaccines take decades to develop. We’ve also tried to develop coronavirus vaccines in the past and have failed.
 
Rain Cold said:
When we open things up and all get back together, we're going to be right where we were before this thing took off...maybe a little farther along since more people have the virus now. Opening back up seems like shutting down in the first place was dumb. I don't know.
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I would think society will change there social behaviors when things open back up. Who is going to go hop on a cruise...fly to a foreign country...pack into a stadium/arena. Not sure what normal will even be. For the past few weeks folks in my neighborhood did a good job of staying isolated.

Past few day’s you see more kids playing together, more neighbors hanging out.
 
I see the drawing on the wall right now. We need to open things up to the working class. Put money into testing as well as providing hospital beds and services so we can sustain the surge of people that need treatment. Everyone over 55 years of age should be forced to quarantine, and I don't care if it's age discrimination. Large cities are the only places that should locked down. The information we're getting from retirement homes and inner cities right now is just horrible, but entirely predictable. People that go out to work or anything should have to wear masks, and, at the very least, force people to social distance. Outside bars and restaurants should be allowed, but they should also be required to provide people sanitizing soaps and naps for their customers, and they should have to wipe down an area after a customer finishes using it.

The more days that pass is just making me more enthusiastic about my the anti-total-lockdown position. This devastating people. However, it's clear what people need to do to prevent contraction of the virus. It's just a question of whether the average American is willing to implement more comprehensive standards to enhance hygiene and cleanliness.
 
KyloG said:
I would think society will change there social behaviors when things open back up. Who is going to go hop on a cruise...fly to a foreign country...pack into a stadium/arena. Not sure what normal will even be. For the past few weeks folks in my neighborhood did a good job of staying isolated.

Past few day’s you see more kids playing together, more neighbors hanging out.
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I can’t wait to take another cruise I was on one of the last one in mid Feb on Norwegian. At that point anyone who had visited China Was not permitted to board. They checked all passports.

I’m also ready to go see a baseball game, visit GA aquarium and zoo Atlanta again. Open her back up and let the chips fall where they aregoing to fall. Screw it.
 
KyloG said:
I would think society will change there social behaviors when things open back up. Who is going to go hop on a cruise...fly to a foreign country...pack into a stadium/arena. Not sure what normal will even be. For the past few weeks folks in my neighborhood did a good job of staying isolated.

Past few day’s you see more kids playing together, more neighbors hanging out.
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You could see it clearly this morning in HD. Fairly good amount of people in the store, lots wearing masks but you could feel the people staying far apart.
 
LithiaWx said:
I can’t wait to take another cruise I was on one of the last one in mid Feb on Norwegian. At that point anyone who had visited China Was not permitted to board. They checked all passports.

I’m also ready to go see a baseball game, visit GA aquarium and zoo Atlanta again. Open her back up and let the chips fall where they aregoing to fall. Screw it.
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I don't see why outdoor sports can't resume this summer since its been shown that the virus hates sunlight. Just play all the games during the day. The Rays and a couple other teams might need to change venues since they play indoors.
 
In N.C., we have come nowhere close to exceeding our hospital capacity, and I think that is the norm with the exception of NY and maybe a few others. It seems to me that we can afford to lessen at least the harshest restrictions, but then again I’m not an expert.
 
Poimen said:
In N.C., we have come nowhere close to exceeding our hospital capacity, and I think that is the norm with the exception of NY and maybe a few others. It seems to me that we can afford to lessen at least the harshest restrictions, but then again I’m not an expert.
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I don’t even think New York has really exceeded hospital vapidity from what I’ve been able to gather.
 
A controversial French Nobel Laureate that discovered the AIDs virus is taking heat for stating that Covid-19 was manufactured as means to find a cure for AIDS, and those claims are substantiated by the myriad of studies on Google regarding this subject matter.
https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/french-prof-sparks-furor-with-lab-leak-theory/

Since the early 2000s, there has been a search for a coronavirus-based vaccine that encodes HIV antigens in coronavirus, because the latter has tremendous capability of targeting the same human cells as HIV. The 2008 study below, indicates that animal testing should be done to this end.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2682378/

Researchers in New York and Shanghai discovered, along with frontline doctors’ observations, that Covid-19 could attack the human immune system and cause damage similar to that found in HIV patients.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...uld-target-immune-system-targeting-protective

A study out of Nankai University in Tianjin discovered that Covid-19 has a mutated gene similarly found on the HIV virus, enabling it to attack human cells via the target called FURIN, which is an enzyme that works as a protein activator in the human body.
file:///Users/newguest/Downloads/202002.00082v1.pdf

However, as the first link explains, researchers did not observe any growth of the coronavirus after it entered the T-Cells, as opposed to HIV that replicates in the T cells and turns them into factories to generate more copies to infect other cells.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...uld-target-immune-system-targeting-protective

The article also adds: “Some critically ill patients also experienced cytokine storms, where the immune system overreacts and attacks healthy cells.” To help severe patients on ventilators, Doctors are using an HIV drug to boost the immune system and calm acute inflammation before to stop the lungs from filling with inflammation.
https://www.wftv.com/news/trending/...onavirus-patients/4ONG76NRAREW7C2LAWBVTHK7EI/

This article explains the aforementioned with better clarity than I could provide
https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...tacks-and-destroys-T-cells-just-like-HIV.aspx
 
From quickly reading over the new guidelines, we are far away from everything opening up all "willy nilly". There is a gate that must be satisfied before you can move into phase 1, then the gate needs to be cleared 2 more times for each of the remaining 2 stages. Any "spike" in infections and or deaths looks like it will reset it back to zero. (on a location level, not the USA)

It will be okay in smaller areas, but big cities, especially have a long long way to go. My county, is way too dense these days for it's size, so it'll be interesting to see what happens here.

In my opinion, the government is using words like "open the country back up" and pushing these "guidelines" and saying "the worst is behind us" to give some sort of hope and good returns in the economy. I mean, they've been doing this "it'll be fine" thing with the way they're wording things and it's shown a positive return on stocks. (will people buy it when places are opening up just to shut back down again? probably not)
 
Poimen said:
NC reported 530 new cases yesterday. That is by far the largest one day increase.
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I wonder how many of that number come from the 250+ positive tests from the Goldsboro prison where 98% were asymptomatic.
 
KyloG said:
I would think society will change there social behaviors when things open back up. Who is going to go hop on a cruise...fly to a foreign country...pack into a stadium/arena. Not sure what normal will even be. For the past few weeks folks in my neighborhood did a good job of staying isolated.

Past few day’s you see more kids playing together, more neighbors hanging out.
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I bet you once things start to reopen, it won't take long before people start gathering vigorously, if they're allowed to. I think the social distancing good hygiene habits may last a little while, but our culture is our culture. We'll be back to socializing bigtime as soon as we're allowed, unless everyone is afraid of death. And I don't think that's going to be the case.
 
Rain Cold said:
I bet you once things start to reopen, it won't take long before people start gathering vigorously, if they're allowed to. I think the social distancing good hygiene habits may last a little while, but our culture is our culture. We'll be back to socializing bigtime as soon as we're allowed, unless everyone is afraid of death. And I don't think that's going to be the case.
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You are probably right...I’m in my 40’s where the fatality rate is higher, but still rather low. If I was under 40, and I didn’t live with an at risk person, I would probably be more apt to get out.

Below is for NC.

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I wanna tell the tale of my neighbors...

Early March the wife gave birth to a new child. Like most 1st time parents they had relative (Read their parents) coming in and out to help, and friends of the couple coming to wish their congratulations.

Well, it's April 18th, and this is still going on. Every day, i mean everyday, they have at least 2 usually 3 different vehicles come over to visit. And it's not the same 2-3 every day. Probably a rotation of about 10-12 different cars , rotating on a daily basis. At some point, a boat showed up. Like a 20 foot Carolina Skiff (nice boat btw) and he's been fishing twice a week with buddies. They come over, hang out, go fish, come home, hang out some more, go home. The weekend before Easter, they had a right ol boating party with 3 couples. They had one of their parents stay with the baby, who then had visitors rolling in and out (4 vehicles) visiting the baby while the parents were out boating with their friends. And now they are out of town with the boat.

And my 80 year old neighbor next door doesn't care. Large family gathering on Easter, and still goes to the Pawn shop and Bojangles Daily.

My 75 year old neighbor next to the young parents, She still goes and does her things, like tea with her church friends and meetings for her community project her church is leading... So she doesn't care.

A lady a few houses down, who i assume is gymnast instructor literally had practice on a tumble mat in her front yard with other children. The other children's moms stayed in their cars, Ya know, social distancing right..?

So, Social Distancing seems to be a joke here. I was all for these restrictions if that meant we kicked this Virus' Ass. But it seems I'm one of the few. This only works if everyone does it, and since 50% or more aren't, why are we still doing it then?
 
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