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Matthew70 said:
Dude do you realize you’re trashing America? Worse than any other country? No matter how bad it gets in America it’s my home and my family. I will die for this country before I surrender it. If America is that bad to you then pack up and move to a better country. No one is holding you here.
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surrender it to who? Not sure what you’re talking about. The US is the epicenter of the pandemic.
 
ryan1234 said:
Yeah, you have fun with that. Don't come anywhere near people you love and care about, please.
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I would agree but if those people choose to see him and be around him that’s their choice. Does nit mean he is being insensitive. Example like my niece who is an RT. Her dad is not in good health at all and they practice safe distance but still hang out together. He loves her and is willing to risk it to see his daughter as she is him.
 
Matthew70 said:
I would agree but if those people choose to see him and be around him that’s their choice. Does nit mean he is being insensitive. Example like my niece who is an RT. Her dad is not in good health at all and they practice safe distance but still hang out together. He loves her and is willing to risk it to see his daughter as she is him.
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It's fine if you take the proper precautions. I miss my family as well, trust me. It's been difficult for me. But you can't just pretend everything is great because it isn't. I have seen my parents, but if I do I am 6 ft apart and we all wash our hands as often as we can. People who say, "well I am not going to listen to actual DOCTORS," and continue to defy science are the ones that are going to cause our ultimate demise as a species.
 
ryan1234 said:
It's fine if you take the proper precautions. I miss my family as well, trust me. It's been difficult for me. But you can't just pretend everything is great because it isn't. I have seen my parents, but if I do I am 6 ft apart and we all wash our hands as often as we can. People who say, "well I am not going to listen to actual DOCTORS," and continue to defy science are the ones that are going to cause our ultimate demise as a species.
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Ryan just think positive. 98-99% survive and are fine. Don’t let fear grip you.??
 
@Matthew70 is being sarcastic.

btw I've seen a whole lot worse on the internet over this. I think what's probably actually realistic is to work on establishing some new norms that we'll see until there's a vaccine (maybe if you want to go sooner, until there's an anti-viral or until they figure out if the plasma injections work) beginning in the middle of May (I'm hoping to get to go see family a little after then), and steadily progress into them, unless it's a hard hit area.

Yet there seems to be a camp online that is like "it's not worth risking it, we better stay shut down until there's a vaccine." I got into some pretty intense arguing over that, and it eventually led to a fall out for now with the Braves chatroom on discord. Maybe trying to open up steadily is going to fail, but I'd rather give it a shot instead of being like "screw it".

I'm not sure what they're going to do about sports. Unless there's major restrictions on crowds, you're opening yourself up to liability problems if you go. The TV money will be good, but still.
 
GeorgiaGirl said:
@Matthew70 is being sarcastic.

btw I've seen a whole lot worse on the internet over this. I think what's probably actually realistic is to work on establishing some new norms that we'll see until there's a vaccine (maybe if you want to go sooner, until there's an anti-viral or until they figure out if the plasma injections work) beginning in the middle of May (I'm hoping to get to go see family a little after then), and steadily progress into them, unless it's a hard hit area.

Yet there seems to be a camp online that is like "it's not worth risking it, we better stay shut down until there's a vaccine." I got into some pretty intense arguing over that, and it eventually led to a fall out for now with the Braves chatroom on discord. Maybe trying to open up steadily is going to fail, but I'd rather give it a shot instead of being like "screw it".

I'm not sure what they're going to do about sports. Unless there's major restrictions on crowds, you're opening yourself up to liability problems if you go. The TV money will be good, but still.
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Yeah I agree. As most have seen on here that I have had my arguments. Even got called mentally insane. ?. It’s been tough on everyone. There is no easy solution or any one completely right. Bottom line is we do have to open up and face this virus. I was out today and practiced social distancing. My rock quarries are running open. Everyone in good spirits. Went to store and everyone was safe and happy. SK is having their pro basketball league now. So there is hope we will have sports.
 
LithiaWx said:
meh, it’s a global world. We are so far and beyond worse than any other country who do we want to keep out? I think you will find we are the pariah here.
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And even besides Europe, other countries like Brazil seem to be on the brink and could be headed on a disastrous trajectory when we hopefully start to get things under control next month.
 
superjames1992 said:


And even besides Europe, other countries like Brazil seem to be on the brink and could be headed on a disastrous trajectory when we hopefully start to get things under control next month.
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meh per capita really can’t look at it that way. The us is huge with hotspots. Take the northeast US and show me those per capita numbers. We are by far the epicenter of this pandemic. You have huge swaths of our country with little outbreak that skews those per capita Numbers.
 
LithiaWx said:
meh per capita really can’t look at it that way. The us is huge with hotspots. Take the northeast US and show me those per capita numbers. We are by far the epicenter of this pandemic. You have huge swaths of our country with little outbreak that skews those per capita Numbers.
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So you want to take a small subsection of the US and use that to produce data and then say the ENTIRE US is the epicenter? I mean I can twist data and make anything say anything I want as well. It’s not a good time to do stuff like that.
 
Stump said:
So you want to take a small subsection of the US and use that to produce data and then say the ENTIRE US is the epicenter? I mean I can twist data and make anything say anything I want as well. It’s not a good time to do stuff like that.
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The NE is larger and more populace than some of those countries higher on the per capita list.
 
The IRS launched a new tool today to allow people don’t normally file a tax return to register for the stimulus payments. These people can visit the IRS Free Fillable Forms website to access the tool and provide basic information including SSN, name, address, and dependents. The IRS will use this information to confirm eligibility and calculate & send the stimulus payment.

Non-Filers: Enter Payment Info Here Tool Is Closed | Internal Revenue Service

Steps to get the Economic Impact (stimulus) Payments if you haven't filed a tax return, and aren't receiving Social Security, SS Disability Income or Railroad Retirement benefits.
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Yellow Snow said:
The IRS launched a new tool today to allow people don’t normally file a tax return to register for the stimulus payments. These people can visit the IRS Free Fillable Forms website to access the tool and provide basic information including SSN, name, address, and dependents. The IRS will use this information to confirm eligibility and calculate & send the stimulus payment.

Non-Filers: Enter Payment Info Here Tool Is Closed | Internal Revenue Service

Steps to get the Economic Impact (stimulus) Payments if you haven't filed a tax return, and aren't receiving Social Security, SS Disability Income or Railroad Retirement benefits.
www.irs.gov www.irs.gov
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I file paper returns and I'm ready for them to get the web portal up that you can input your banking info so you don't have to wait on a paper check.
 
stretch46 said:
I file paper returns and I'm ready for them to get the web portal up that you can input your banking info so you don't have to wait on a paper check.
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When did you file the paper return? The IRS severely reduced processing of paper forms at their regional centers last month and completely suspended all paper processing this week.
 
pcbjr said:
These are not "open up right away" graphs ...


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I’m sure there are double to triple amount of people that have it they have not even been counted in that graph. When the end of April comes a hard choice will have to be made either open up and keep the scales from tipping completely into a great depression or just a severe recession. The discussion then will be are the deaths from the virus going to be worse than the suffering and death from the Great Depression? Not at all Is this aimed at you pcbjr.
 
Matthew70 said:
I’m sure there are double to triple amount of people that have it they have not even been counted in that graph. When the end of April comes a hard choice will have to be made either open up and keep the scales from tipping completely into a great depression or just a severe recession. The discussion then will be are the deaths from the virus going to be worse than the suffering and death from the Great Depression?
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I do not, nor have I ever pretended to have an answer (on this or weather) ... but I do know the difference between a named disorganized June TS in the Gulf and a Cat 3 in early September in the MDR with some strong steering currents ...
 
I find it cute how the IMHE modeling was "overdone", so now we are realizing much lower numbers than previously expected. It's almost like common sense doesn't tell people that the shut down and social distancing was the reasoning behind the slowing of the spread.

Yeah, lets just let everything right back open, right away. Seems like a perfect plan.

Seriously though. This is as bad as the false security they gave people saying to wear masks. I guess we'll see soon.
 
Shawn said:
I find it cute how the IMHE modeling was "overdone", so now we are realizing much lower numbers than previously expected. It's almost like common sense doesn't tell people that the shut down and social distancing was the reasoning behind the slowing of the spread.

Yeah, lets just let everything right back open, right away. Seems like a perfect plan.
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Or maybe its the extra sunlight that's helping. Ive heard that most viruses dont like sunlight. Flu season does tend to wind down this time of year, so I'm assuming most viruses are the same way.
 
Dewpoint Dan said:
Or maybe its the extra sunlight that's helping. Ive heard that most viruses dont like sunlight.
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I know DHEC had said 8000 would be the peak or something around here. Well, they started releasing numbers of suspected cases, and it was over 20,000 last time I checked days ago. It's been very warm here, so idk.
 
We have to open up the majority of the country by early May. Otherwise unemployment goes to 30% and you can kiss a huge bounce back out the window. You end up with bankrupt businesses and blood in the streets. Mass scale foreclosures, homelessness, poverty and half of all business going defunct.
 
LithiaWx said:
We have to open up the majority of the country by early May. Otherwise unemployment goes to 30% and you can kiss a huge bounce back out the window. You end up with bankrupt businesses and blood in the streets. Mass scale foreclosures, homelessness, poverty and half of all business going defunct.
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Its a tough decision. Millions losing there jobs, can’t pay bills, no health insurance. I would think come May we will see things loosened up.

When this finally gets contained with a vaccine it’s going to be debated if closing the country down was the right call. The millions with no jobs, insurance, savings....
 
KyloG said:
Its a tough decision. Millions losing there jobs, can’t pay bills, no health insurance. I would think come May we will see things loosened up.

When this finally gets contained with a vaccine it’s going to be debated if closing the country down was the right call. The millions with no jobs, insurance, savings....
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And with that debate, people with memory loss will be saying "It wasn't as bad as the models were predicting so it wasn't worth it" because they'll fail to realize the shutdown prevented that. They should open up only places that have passed their peak and where the hospital systems can handle the new patients, not in ones where if they reopen they'd surge in hospitalizations from the virus above their capacities.
 
Good news for people currently receiving unemployment in Georgia - the Georgia DOL will now be adding on the weekly $600 stimulus payment for unemployment recipients to their current payments, retroactive to last week:

"The GDOL will begin sending this additional payment to those currently receiving state unemployment benefits beginning next week. This supplement will be an additional payment to regular weekly state unemployment benefits and will include all eligible weeks beginning with the week ending 4/4/2020."

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GDOL COVID-19 Information

Georgia Department of Labor information regarding COVID-19 for Employers and Individuals.
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Shawn said:
I find it cute how the IMHE modeling was "overdone", so now we are realizing much lower numbers than previously expected. It's almost like common sense doesn't tell people that the shut down and social distancing was the reasoning behind the slowing of the spread.

Yeah, lets just let everything right back open, right away. Seems like a perfect plan.

Seriously though. This is as bad as the false security they gave people saying to wear masks. I guess we'll see soon.
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I think let governors decide for their states. What NY is doing should not apply to other states. Hot spots can be addressed by the states.
 
Shaggy said:
So should states not seeing outbreaks ban travel from states that are?
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Maybe it depends on what part of that state they are coming from. NYC is faring much worse than Buffalo. Cant ban an entire state just because one small corner of the state is having problems.
 
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