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Shaggy
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As we have watched the disaster in Italy, Spain and NYC unfold it sheds some serious light on what likely happened in Wuhan. It makes perfect sense now. At the time some of us were watching what they were doing versus saying. Dumping loads of dirt across interstates, locking down entire cities and the draconian measures they were taking sure seemed like overkill for 500 deaths.
In reality they likely had the same explosion as Italy and NYC and thats why they crazy on the responses. Building hospitals and such.
In reality they likely had the same explosion as Italy and NYC and thats why they crazy on the responses. Building hospitals and such.
Louisiana deaths went up to 477, from 409 yesterday at noon, which is an increase of 68. Total confirmed cases are now 13,010. 1803 are now hospitalized.
pcbjr
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Possible start of a good trend, Larry, if it's not the result of weekend reporting (which I pray is not the case), and more importantly, ii) if folks don't get complacent and decide the light is "green" ... ? ? ?
vsublazer
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These are Albany’s numbers released today. The state is still reporting on 30 deaths in Dougherty County but hospital is reporting 40 as of this afternoon. I think there is a lag time in numbers being reported due to the weekend. So be cautiously optimistic with numbers as I am afraid either the 7 pm numbers will show it or Monday’s 12 pm numbers.
On the other front at least my neighbors are taking it seriously now. Yesterday someone posted that two of our neighbors in the neighborhood tested positive and are recovering. Mind you our neighborhood has over 250 homes in it.
As serious as I think Coronavirus is, this is a valid point and is worthy of discussion. Especially since it’s looking more and more likely that this thing started way back in November and possibly even sooner than that.Comments?
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pcbjr
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Coranavirus and seasonal flu and HIV are partially avoidable with common sense
Ditto with auto fatalities
Suicides, alcohol, smoking, cancer and hunger need more attention at many levels (as each is "beatable")
Abortion is a no-brainer
Bottom line - there is no reason any of those numbers need to rise to the levels presented ...
snowlover91
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This appears to be good news.
www.foxnews.com
New York has first daily drop in coronavirus deaths, Cuomo announces, as military heads to NYC
New York state saw its first drop in daily coronavirus deaths, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced Sunday -- as U.S. Northern Command announced it would deploy a combined total of 1,000 Air Force and Navy medical providers to the New York City area to support relief efforts in the next three days.
www.foxnews.com
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I have no problem with "worldometers" as a source of data as it is rated highly for factually based and unbiased info. However, deaths from Coronavirus are rising rapidly. Please don't downplay it as that does society no good. This is serious, man! Also, bringing abortion (which I'm firmly against) into this makes this an obviously political based post, which doesn't belong in this thread. It is irrelevant! Please keep politics out of this thread.
Your chart has corona virus deaths at 21,297 as of 3/25. Just 11 days later, it is already more than triple that at 68,423 and is still rising rapidly:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
In contrast, seasonal flu has risen much less and is at 127,336. It will easily be overtaken by coronavirus soon, unfortunately. Corona is rising by a much higher % than any others on your list.
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President sounds hopeful after 2 weeks we be in clear maybe? Or at least recovery
Shaggy
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Yeah numbers are not horrible outside of hotspots and not rising at exponential rates. While the choices made have brought on some hardships it is also bringing this into a controlled burn for many areas.
Preliminarily i would say most places have flattened the curve thanks to lockdowns and social distancing. We keep these in place another 3 to 5 weeks and we may be able to put the worst of this behind us.
VegasEagle
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Just started for Covid19. This is comparing a full year of the others to the just the beginning of Covid19.Comments?
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pcbjr
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If that is suggesting cats can contract it ... do I have a right to ... ? ... never mind, though I am overrun with feral cats from the woods ...
More info on the tiger that got infected with COVID-19.
British PM Boris Johnson has been taken to the hospital because of worsening Covid-19 symptoms.
I personally can't stand people saying stuff like, "Oh, but look at annual flu deaths!". It's apples to oranges, people. You're talking about comparing a new virus that is just now beginning to make it's debut in the general population with a long timer illness that has afflicted the people for decades and is now well established? I think a more accurate comparison would be to look at the worst daily death toll from the flu this past season compared with the worst day of COVID-19. And even here, it has to be stressed that this new virus hasn't yet realized it's full devastating potential. Hopefully our current distancing measures can still mitigate that. It seems that those who make such assertions are trying to advocate to "return everything to normal life". But if we do that, then we'll really see the brutal effects of the virus.
Yeah, I mean by that kind of apples to oranges logic we could say, “Oh, 58k US military deaths over 10 years in Vietnam is no big deal! Lots more people per year die per year of the flu than died per year in Vietnam! Vietnam wasn’t so bad!”
(Just an example)
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Where’s Joe Exotic when you need him? (Sorry, couldn’t resist).
In other news, I did hear that Joe was showing signs of COVID.
The old data IHME prediction for April 5th for AL, 46 deaths with a lo-hi range of 36-54, actual deaths for today, 1.
gawxnative
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Also, think about what flu deaths, hospitalizations etc would be without a vaccine
LetItSnow
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Not meant to minimize what we're going through..
Interesting statistics from the CDC going back to 2013 of overall deaths and deaths related to pneumonia. One hypothesis is the "lock downs" have lowered the overall deaths in the country due to less automobile accidents; work related deaths; and accidental deaths; approximately 40,000 fewer people have died the 1st 12 weeks of the year in the country as compared to the 2013 - 2019 average.
Of note is the drop off in pneumonia related deaths or at least pneumonia related deaths as they're reported; 10,000 fewer pneumonia associated deaths for the 1st 12 weeks of 2020 compared to the 2013 to 2019 average.
Could it be the pneumonia deaths that would've happened to an at risk population have been replaced by Corona related deaths; i.e. the population most susceptible to pneumonia are now being adversely affected by Corona (the at risk group really is the same?)
The dramatic drop off in all deaths compared to the 2013 to 2019 average for the last 2 weeks ending March 21st would support the hypothesis "lock downs" have actually contributed greatly to the decrease.
Interesting statistics from the CDC going back to 2013 of overall deaths and deaths related to pneumonia. One hypothesis is the "lock downs" have lowered the overall deaths in the country due to less automobile accidents; work related deaths; and accidental deaths; approximately 40,000 fewer people have died the 1st 12 weeks of the year in the country as compared to the 2013 - 2019 average.
Of note is the drop off in pneumonia related deaths or at least pneumonia related deaths as they're reported; 10,000 fewer pneumonia associated deaths for the 1st 12 weeks of 2020 compared to the 2013 to 2019 average.
Could it be the pneumonia deaths that would've happened to an at risk population have been replaced by Corona related deaths; i.e. the population most susceptible to pneumonia are now being adversely affected by Corona (the at risk group really is the same?)
The dramatic drop off in all deaths compared to the 2013 to 2019 average for the last 2 weeks ending March 21st would support the hypothesis "lock downs" have actually contributed greatly to the decrease.
NCSNOW
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Look so forward to the day when we can go back to church and worship our awesome God together as one body. In the meantime everyone keep pressing on. Its a major boost to the ole morale knowing the surge may not over run the hospitals.
This week is going to be horrific. All of those cases we added last week are coming home to roost. I fear we see 10-30k dead just this week in the US.
weekend numbers are not something I’m taking at face value. Pretty sure we see the catch up from this weekend tomorrow.
weekend numbers are not something I’m taking at face value. Pretty sure we see the catch up from this weekend tomorrow.
NY, LA, MI are more than making up for the areas missing low. Also it could be that the AL peak comes later and hit harder than expected. I’m glad it seems so far AL isn’t following the projections for that state but man it’s a bit early still. This nightmare has just begun. I hope the WA model busts bigly low but I think it ends up busting high in the end. I think the timing is off in some areas not the end result.
Snow_chaser
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Local Sams this morning.
thats what I’m afraid of.
Yeah, the next week or two (at least) are going to be bad. That's baked in at this point. We're going to be well above 1,000 cases per day, probably exceeding 2,000 at some point (and maybe even higher).
Certainly, if it really gets out of control, we will see a lot more deaths than that eventually, but there does seem to be some evidence of the curve starting to flatten in the USA, so the measures that have been taken seem to be having the desired effect (even if they aren't as restrictive as might be ideal).
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Maybe we need a separate thread for COVID conspiracy theories. But this one take the cake so far.
thanksgivingbrown
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Read through his tweets and it’s painfully obvious the guy just likes to stir the pot. He’s a bonafide attention -----
Dewpoint Dan
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Jon
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Model was updated today!
covid19.healthdata.org
Looks like Covid-19 deaths peak in NC in 9 days (vs 16 days yesterday) and the daily deaths drop to ~3 April 29th (was June 4th)...major update and saved a months time. Social distancing is working.
Also warmer weather could be helping. Deaths would lag benefits of warmer weather, and since testing isn’t available, hospitalizations as well.
My friends that work in hospitals around the state mention that it’s actually slow right now, and it’s only packed and crazy at big city hospitals such as NYC.
IHME | COVID-19 Projections
Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
covid19.healthdata.org
Looks like Covid-19 deaths peak in NC in 9 days (vs 16 days yesterday) and the daily deaths drop to ~3 April 29th (was June 4th)...major update and saved a months time. Social distancing is working.
Also warmer weather could be helping. Deaths would lag benefits of warmer weather, and since testing isn’t available, hospitalizations as well.
My friends that work in hospitals around the state mention that it’s actually slow right now, and it’s only packed and crazy at big city hospitals such as NYC.
Model was updated today!
IHME | COVID-19 Projections
Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
Looks like Covid-19 deaths peak in NC in 9 days (vs 16 days yesterday) and the daily deaths drop to ~3 April 29th (was June 4th)...major update and saved a months time. Social distancing is working.
Also warmer weather could be helping. Deaths would lag benefits of warmer weather, and since testing isn’t available, hospitalizations as well.
My friends that work in hospitals around the state mention that it’s actually slow right now, and it’s only packed and crazy at big city hospitals such as NYC.
Much better for AL, yet still over counted. Instead of adding the deaths slowly, they added 20 deaths in one day which really bumped their total. Taking that into account, AL looks excellent at this point. Maybe the proudest I’ve been of my state in a while!
Edit: Looking at MS, that is much closer to what AL is looking right now as far as tracking. They are predicting 237 deaths for MS with no where close to overrunning hospitals.
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I hope it is right. It still as a lot of deaths in Georgia but the peak is sooner and the hospital peak is much less steep than it was.Model was updated today!
IHME | COVID-19 Projections
Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
Looks like Covid-19 deaths peak in NC in 9 days (vs 16 days yesterday) and the daily deaths drop to ~3 April 29th (was June 4th)...major update and saved a months time. Social distancing is working.
Also warmer weather could be helping. Deaths would lag benefits of warmer weather, and since testing isn’t available, hospitalizations as well.
My friends that work in hospitals around the state mention that it’s actually slow right now, and it’s only packed and crazy at big city hospitals such as NYC.
Dewpoint Dan
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Great news to see we are only 10 days from the peak and then it goes down sharply after that. I think May will be a much better month.
Yellow Snow
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For those of you in Georgia, the GDOL is now saying that self-employed independent contractors can apply for unemployment benefits available under the stimulus bill by April 10th (they've been working to incorporate the bill's package of expanded benefits into their system):
dol.georgia.gov
GDOL COVID-19 Information
Georgia Department of Labor information regarding COVID-19 for Employers and Individuals.
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