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Catfish said:
You complain about the thread being too political then you post a link to a story from The Atlantic? Hmmm.....
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Yes, because despite what you may think of the Atlantic, there are actual professionals speaking in this article. And if you don't want to read it, fine. But at least get educated on the matter. Maybe this will adhere to some of you:

Prepare For Outbreaks Like New York's In Other States, Warns Anthony Fauci

A key adviser to the president, Dr. Anthony Fauci doesn't think every state needs to be on lockdown just yet. But some places should be preparing for surges like New York's.
www.npr.org
 
ryan1234 said:
For all of you downplaying this and there are a lot of you. Take 10 minutes and please read this article. None of us on here are damn doctors, so everything we are posting is hearsay. I need a break from this thread, honestly. When we first started it people were actually giving useful information. Now it's turned into a mostly political discussion with people "congratulating" Trump for his response. Which is asinine for so many reasons. Even if we had a different POTUS, I'd say the same thing.

How the Pandemic Will End

The U.S. may end up with the worst COVID-19 outbreak in the industrialized world. This is how it’s going to play out.
www.theatlantic.com
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Don't take this the wrong way man but yeah, you might need a little break. Stay safe.....
 
Since we haven't tested all 300 million americans, the governers of "most states" are taking the advice of the Trump administration and treating their response to the worse case scenario even without the testing data. That's actually the correct thing to do. Yes some will disagree for obvious reasons but its the best response with the least amount of "overkill".....
 
All I can say at this point is when we end up like Italy or Spain, I don't want to hear any of you naysayers complain, whine, or apologize for not listening to what the true professionals have been saying for months.
 
According to BNO we are about 387 cases away from overtaking China as the most coronavirus cases.
 
And Italy has a population density that's five times that of the U.S.... five times as many people on top of each other helping the virus spread. Where has US seen greatest issues? NYC? What city has the highest population density in the U.S.? There's a correlation in my opinion... rural NC and other vast parts of this country don't have anywhere close to that level of population density. Let the large metropolitan areas take the necessary precautions to protect their citizens, while other rural counties do what they see fit. Just my $.02...
 
Uncwmark said:
And Italy has a population density that's five times that of the U.S.... five times as many people on top of each other helping the virus spread. Where has US seen greatest issues? NYC? What city has the highest population density in the U.S.? There's a correlation in my opinion... rural NC and other vast parts of this country don't have anywhere close to that level of population density. Let the large metropolitan areas take the necessary precautions to protect their citizens, while other rural counties do what they see fit. Just my $.02...
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New York City has a densely concentrated population and it is a major international hub. Those are both factors.
 
Letting local leaders take the lead on public safety decisions works most of the time. Most disasters tend to have localized impacts.

This is affecting us nationwide. Our response should be led more at the federal level than by governors.

It's like if Governor Cooper had decided not to close schools across NC last week, but decided instead to let the local school systems make that decision, how would that look like? Do we praise him for leadership and assume local leaders are following his advice, or would we think he's timid and a step behind on what should have been done? If I recall, he got a little bit of heat on here for waiting until the largest systems make the call before he pulled the trigger.

Most of the time, letting school systems make the call to close schools works because it's due to weather, and storms affect different parts of the state differently. Most would believe this situation was different because of the unique circumstances and required a statewide decision. If so, why would this apply to the state level, but not the federal?
 
YetAnotherRDUGuy said:
Letting local leaders take the lead on public safety decisions works most of the time. Most disasters tend to have localized impacts.

This is affecting us nationwide. Our response should be led more at the federal level than by governors.

It's like if Governor Cooper had decided not to close schools across NC last week, but decided instead to let the local school systems make that decision, how would that look like? Do we praise him for leadership and assume local leaders are following his advice, or would we think he's timid and a step behind on what should have been done? If I recall, he got a little bit of heat on here for waiting until the largest systems make the call before he pulled the trigger.

Most of the time, letting school systems make the call to close schools works because it's due to weather, and storms affect different parts of the state differently. Most would believe this situation was different because of the unique circumstances and required a statewide decision. If so, why would this apply to the state level, but not the federal?
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depends on the state ... look at some that have no local infections reported ... shut them down too? (Rhetorical question, I assure you) ... ?
 
And this is why we're going to get a lot worse before we get better. Americans by and large are really, really stupid.

Junior's Pizza closes after customers ignore coronavirus safety

On Monday, Jennifer Aton posted signage at the front door outlining the dos and don’ts for patronizing Junior’s. Yet repeated customer disregard for the restaurant’s safety policies have forced the Atons to lock doors and call it quits.
www.ajc.com
 
pcbjr said:
depends on the state ... look at some that have no local infections reported ... shut them down too? (Rhetorical question, I assure you) ... ?
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That's an interesting point, and food for thought. But depending on the situation, if a state isn't locked down I'm concerned people will travel to it to avoid restrictions (and unwittingly spread the virus).
 
weatherfide said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/epid...admits-he-was-wrong-drastically-revises-model

Looks like I was right after all. It’s been here since early December. Already worked over many areas of the population. Can we go ahead and open up the restaurants now? I’m starving!
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Be wary of the Daily Wire's strong right bias:

The Daily Wire - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may
mediabiasfactcheck.com
 
So this stimulus package, how does that work for dependents that are college age? I've seen additional $500 for children 16 and under?
 
Snowfan said:
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What doesn't fit is the UK locked down Monday or Tuesday after they have seen as we in the US have significant community spread. In just a few days he has went from 500,000 to "probably much less than 20,000" and also only two-three weeks lockdown time.

In any case it's really good news to what we can achieve here.
 
metwannabe said:
So this stimulus package, how does that work for dependents that are college age? I've seen additional $500 for children 16 and under?
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The $500 is for children who were under the age of 17 in calendar 2020. But if college age children filed their own tax returns (even if they're claimed as a dependent on someone else's tax return), then they get their own $1,200 payment.
 
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