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Y'all have moved on from this area but I'll add another flu shot story...

My mom got one for the last time almost 2 and a half years ago (probably a little over the half). Though I'm not sure what she got was the flu, not long past then, she spent much of fall and winter miserably sick, and had to visit the doctor multiple times.

Only got one to give her family in NW GA the gift card she gets from getting one, so after that bad experience, she did not get it again, and although I can't say her health has been perfect (because of another issue), she hasn't had a stretch like that fall/winter again yet.


I would also be interested in the age and condition of the Solano County person that's hospitalized.
 
GeorgiaGirl said:
Y'all have moved on from this area but I'll add another flu shot story...

My mom got one for the last time almost 2 and a half years ago (probably a little over the half). Though I'm not sure what she got was the flu, not long past then, she spent much of fall and winter miserably sick, and had to visit the doctor multiple times.

Only got one to give her family in NW GA the gift card she gets from getting one, so after that bad experience, she did not get it again, and although I can't say her health has been perfect (because of another issue), she hasn't had a stretch like that fall/winter again yet.


I would also be interested in the age and condition of the Solano County person that's hospitalized.
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Never had the flu shot and never had the flu. My son had the flu this summer but nobody else got it.
 
Steven_1974 said:
So what ridiculous site did you get that from?

www.businessinsider.com

A GOP senator keeps pushing a thoroughly debunked theory that the Wuhan coronavirus is a leaked Chinese biological weapon gone wrong

The conspiracy theory focuses on the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, a government lab near the meat market at the center of the outbreak.
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Cotton's theory has already been thoroughly debunked by multiple scientists.

"There's absolutely nothing in the genome sequence of this virus that indicates the virus was engineered," Richard Ebright, a professor of chemical biology at Rutgers University, told The Washington Post Sunday.

"The possibility this was a deliberately released bioweapon can be firmly excluded."

Vipin Narang, associate professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, also told The Post it was "a skip in logic to say it's a bioweapon" or claim China "developed and intentionally deployed, or even unintentionally deployed" the virus.

"I don't think it's particularly helpful, and it's borderline irresponsible to — and it's without evidence, so at this point it's a conspiracy theory — peddle it," he told the newspaper.
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In fairness, Cotton never specifically claimed the virus is a bioweapon; he merely said that at this stage we "need to be open to all possibilities" regarding the origin of the disease.

I personally don't hold much stock in the bioweapon theory, but an accidental release of a research specimen from the Wuhan Institute of Virology is certainly within the realm of possibility. When it comes to governments, Hanlon's Razor is often applicable.

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Yellow Snow said:
In fairness, Cotton never specifically claimed the virus is a bioweapon; he merely said that at this stage we "need to be open to all possibilities" regarding the origin of the disease.

I personally don't hold much stock in the bioweapon theory, but an accidental release of a research specimen from the Wuhan Institute of Virology is certainly within the realm of possibility. When it comes to governments, Hanlon's Razor is often applicable.

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I would be willing to bet stupidity over malice.
 
The White House taking a page out of Winnie The Pooh’s (Xi Jinping) playbook. No government health employees talking to the media unless their talking points are approved by the White House. Run it by VP Pence, the guy with no medical experience and the same guy who, when he was governor of Indiana and was confronted with high AIDS transmission rates in his state, decided to cut the public health budget and closed a clinic that did HIV testing at the time.
 
Friday’s are notoriously bad for the stock market. I bet we drop another 500 to 1000 tomorrow..
 
so approximately 15 million people have been infected and around 8,000 have died in the US alone.

WHO estimates up to 650,000 people die around the world each year.

Wait; that's for the FLU, not coronavirus..

Where's the media?
Where's the outrage?
Where's the containment?
Where's the panic?
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Friday’s are notoriously bad for the stock market. I bet we drop another 500 to 1000 tomorrow..
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Today was the biggest loss of points in one day and futures are looking like the long range forecast all winter... Bleak. Not sure if it's true but I saw a report that says the president of iran has the virus
 
LetItSnow said:
so approximately 15 million people have been infected and around 8,000 have died in the US alone.

WHO estimates up to 650,000 people die around the world each year.

Wait; that's for the FLU, not coronavirus..

Where's the media?
Where's the outrage?
Where's the containment?
Where's the panic?
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I think China gets the flu every year also but they don't shut down the country every year. Figure it out for yourself
 
LetItSnow said:
so approximately 15 million people have been infected and around 8,000 have died in the US alone.

WHO estimates up to 650,000 people die around the world each year.

Wait; that's for the FLU, not coronavirus..

Where's the media?
Where's the outrage?
Where's the containment?
Where's the panic?
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I remember when japan closed all school in the country for the flu...
 
LetItSnow said:
so approximately 15 million people have been infected and around 8,000 have died in the US alone.

WHO estimates up to 650,000 people die around the world each year.

Wait; that's for the FLU, not coronavirus..

Where's the media?
Where's the outrage?
Where's the containment?
Where's the panic?
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The flu at least shows itself quickly. Would you be more worried about someone who breaks into your front door armed after you see them running to your house, or would you rather have someone sneak into your house, hide in your attic, then rob you or attempt to kill you as you sleep? It's the fact it's spreading quickly and undetected that gets people panicked.
 
So the Navy ordered it ships out to sea from all high risk zones for 14 days. So everyone on the ship should be under 60 years old. So what is the worry if it’s just another flu???‍♂️ Only older people get really sick right?
 
ForsythSnow said:
The flu at least shows itself quickly. Would you be more worried about someone who breaks into your front door armed after you see them running to your house, or would you rather have someone sneak into your house, hide in your attic, then rob you or attempt to kill you as you sleep? It's the fact it's spreading quickly and undetected that gets people panicked.
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You can have the flu up to 7 days before symptoms show. Per my children’s doctor 2 weeks ago.


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Interesting very heated and tough questioning from typically Trump supporting GOP Senator Kennedy toward acting head of Dept. of Homeland Security:

 
Matthew70 said:
So the Navy ordered it ships out to sea from all high risk zones for 14 days. So everyone on the ship should be under 60 years old. So what is the worry if it’s just another flu???‍♂️ Only older people get really sick right?
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I would think the worry is with just more people spreading it quickly and overloading the health care system, and spreading it to people who can’t handle the virus very well. Those soldiers likely wouldn’t die or be hindered as badly as the people they come into contact with, and the people those people come into contact with, etc. the slower the spread the better.
 
NoSnowATL said:
It’s a new outbreak, the actions seem proactive and it should be. I’ve not seen anything that freaks me out.


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Professor from Harvard says he expects 40 to 70 percent of americans will get this virus. Does that freak you out? I'm not saying end of the world freak out but end of the bull market. I'm a little concerned about all my elderly and unhealthy friends and family.
 
GaWx said:
Are stores already having runs on water and other things? Please tell me this isn’t happening.
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Yeah the water thing is weird, I mean is coronavirus going to make the sinks in my house stop? Really this is all crazy to me, either this thing is way way worse than the government's are letting on and we are all going to die or turn into zombies or this is a social media fueled panic over something that does not really deserve it.
 
Downeastnc said:
Yeah the water thing is weird, I mean is coronavirus going to make the sinks in my house stop? Really this is all crazy to me, either this thing is way way worse than the government's are letting on and we are all going to die or turn into zombies or this is a social media fueled panic over something that does not really deserve it.
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It's silly but so is the snow rush at stores
 
Yes just got back water was still available but tons missing, can food picked over, tp. Bread almost gone condoms where almost gone, hand sanitizer and aspirin I have pics need to resize them but that's what I seen imby
Forgot I snagged the last big box of baby wipes and the ramen was a favorite choice around here for preps
 
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I learned that ppl will be having lots of sex using hand sanitizer, eating bread for carbs along with all the canned soup and taking aspirin afterwards
 
Heelyes said:
Professor from Harvard says he expects 40 to 70 percent of americans will get this virus. Does that freak you out? I'm not saying end of the world freak out but end of the bull market. I'm a little concerned about all my elderly and unhealthy friends and family.
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Doesn’t freak me out at all. A market correction was due.


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Downeastnc said:
Yeah the water thing is weird, I mean is coronavirus going to make the sinks in my house stop? Really this is all crazy to me, either this thing is way way worse than the government's are letting on and we are all going to die or turn into zombies or this is a social media fueled panic over something that does not really deserve it.
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The ladder.


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Heelyes said:
Professor from Harvard says he expects 40 to 70 percent of americans will get this virus. Does that freak you out? I'm not saying end of the world freak out but end of the bull market. I'm a little concerned about all my elderly and unhealthy friends and family.
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I imagine the best bet for these elderly and unhealthy folks would be for them to stay home if at all possible as well as constantly wash their hands/use Purell and for any visitors to wear masks. Also, they should wear masks when there are visitors or if they have to go to the doc, themselves. The visitors/care-givers can bring them food and meds or they can get meds through the mail thus allowing them to stay home. The caregivers need to be extra careful, themselves, to avoid infection by wearing masks around others and to constantly wash/use Purell.

Does that sound like a good plan if and when this virus ever becomes widespread? I’m asking because I’m taking care of a not so healthy and immuno-compromised (due to meds...he gets infections often) bro who is also physically disabled (due to lower back pain) and who also isn’t a spring chicken. He goes out only for doc/haircut appointments. He does have home healthcare visits for PT and nursing. Actually, I’d be worried they could spread it to him! I’d be tempted to cancel their visits.

Any advice? TIA
 
This will either go quite for a few weeks, with cases here and there. Or they will flood us with reports of new cases playing politics and creating mass panic. Hope that isnt the cases but I do fear that out come
 
Windergawx said:
Yes just got back water was still available but tons missing, can food picked over, tp. Bread almost gone condoms where almost gone, hand sanitizer and aspirin I have pics need to resize them but that's what I seen imby
Forgot I snagged the last big box of baby wipes and the ramen was a favorite choice around here for preps
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I picked up 4 boxes of ramen yesterday..and canned goods

I’m always one step ahead. Just waiting on my n95 masks now. Probably shipping from China FML
 
GaWx said:
I imagine the best bet for these elderly and unhealthy folks would be for them to stay home if at all possible as well as constantly wash their hands/use Purell and for any visitors to wear masks. Also, they should wear masks when there are visitors or if they have to go to the doc, themselves. The visitors/care-givers can bring them food and meds or they can get meds through the mail thus allowing them to stay home. The caregivers need to be extra careful, themselves, to avoid infection by wearing masks around others and to constantly wash/use Purell.

Does that sound like a good plan if and when this virus ever becomes widespread? I’m asking because I’m taking care of a not so healthy and immuno-compromised (due to meds; he gets infections often) bro who is also physically disabled (due to lower back pain) and who also isn’t a spring chicken. He goes out only for doc/haircut appointments. He does have home healthcare visits for PT and nursing. Actually, I’d be worried they could spread it to him!

Any advice? TIA
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I would treat this the same way you would treat a flu outbreak. Be proactive and be cautious. I don’t think you should do anymore then you have planned. It’s a good plan.


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I’m convinced the Gavin Newsom announcement earlier that 8400 people were being monitored for the virus in California was 100% political to send the market into free fall going into the weekend. Tomorrow will be just as bad. Question everything
 
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