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ryan1234 said:
You just like to argue with me, don't you? No matter what I say, regardless of how much validity it has, you always seem to one-up me. And yeah, I want Trump to take this seriously. There is a time and place for panic and this is it. Have you not heard what Dr. Fauci said? Or do you just ignore professional medical advice? Do you not see what happened in Italy and the dire warning they put out? And yeah, that's highly offensive. Stop trying to downplay everything.
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Italy is different. What’s happening in Italy can’t happen here. They are a high dense population that smoke a lot and have a high ageing population. We need to stop comparing other countries to the USA. Every country is so different in every way and the effects will not all be the same.


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Sandbar said:
Do you even remotely understand the undertaking of shutting an entire country down? The logistics of it? The preparation of it before you even announce it? Im not sure what you expect Trump to tell you? To panic? That's its going to be aweful? That's it not under control? Don't take any personal offense to this but some of you need to be put under anesthesia until this is over for your own well being.
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Says the guy bragging about being stocked up on ammo. You seem to argue with most on this board. Isn't there a milita forum you could join to argue less
 
Heelyes said:
Not to mention summer is still a long ways off
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Per a paper linked here by @Jon it may not require summer wx to reduce its spread. It hypothesized multiweek periods with means of 41-52 F and low RH as the most conducive conditions. Normal means in most of the SE are already near or above 52. By late March, practically all of the non-mountainous SE will have normals warmer than 52 and the SE is in a mostly AN pattern, besides. In addition, we've already lost the low dewpoints/RH for the most part and the SER will keep RHs from getting low.

What I'm saying is that seemingly silly tweet by Trump about things improving by April per what folks told him may not be far off from what actually happens, especially in the southern US.
 
NoSnowATL said:
Italy is different. What’s happening in Italy can’t happen here. They are a high dense population that smoke a lot and have a high ageing population. We need to stop comparing other countries to the USA. Every country is so different in every way and the effects will not all be the same.


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You are fooling yourself if you believe that to be true. Have you been to LA, NYC, SF, Seattle? Need I go on? We also have a high aging population as well. And last time I checked people smoke vapes here like it's candy.
 
GaWx said:
Per a paper linked here by @Jon it may not require summer wx to reduce its spread. It hypothesized multiweek periods with means of 41-52 F and low RH as the most conducive conditions. Normal means in most of the SE are already near or above 52. By late March, practically all of the non-mountainous SE will have normals warmer than 52 and the SE is in a mostly AN pattern, besides. In addition, we've already lost the low dewpoints/RH for the most part and the SER will keep RHs from getting low.

What I'm saying is that seemingly silly tweet by Trump about things improving by April per what folks told him may not be far off from what actually happens, especially in the southern US.
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Something to keep in mind is if travel is opened back up then airports would continue to act as a breeding ground. Yankees bringing the virus back down with them. But you are right, the spread could be minimal by that point. Who really knows? Best thread ever!
 
ryan1234 said:
You are fooling yourself if you believe that to be true. Have you been to LA, NYC, SF, Seattle? Need I go on? We also have a high aging population as well. And last time I checked people smoke vapes here like it's candy.
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I have been to NY and SF and La. We won’t be like Italy. Louisiana will do better the SF and NY since it’s already warm down there.


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ryan1234 said:
You are fooling yourself if you believe that to be true. Have you been to LA, NYC, SF, Seattle? Need I go on? We also have a high aging population as well. And last time I checked people smoke vapes here like it's candy.
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Italy's median age is 45 vs 38 in US. Also, Italy's pop. is almost 6 times denser and more smoke there. And then there's the wild card of it getting warmer.
 
GaWx said:
Per a paper linked here by @Jon it may not require summer wx to reduce its spread. It hypothesized multiweek periods with means of 41-52 F and low RH as the most conducive conditions. Normal means in most of the SE are already near or above 52. By late March, practically all of the non-mountainous SE will have normals warmer than 52 and the SE is in a mostly AN pattern, besides. In addition, we've already lost the low dewpoints/RH for the most part and the SER will keep RHs from getting low.

What I'm saying is that seemingly silly tweet by Trump about things improving by April per what folks told him may not be far off from what actually happens, especially in the southern US.
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Also keep in mind many of the closings and shutdowns I've seen, at least here in NC, seem to go through the first week of April. I sure hope the warmer weather can slow things down, if we can do some type of nationwide shutdown for a few weeks to get us there maybe those two things combined will help. One can hope at least.
 
Myfrotho704_ said:
Geez this thread is getting somewhat sketchy
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It's because people refuse to listen to actual science. I don't know if it's to lessen their fears or because ignorance is bliss. Whatever the case is, it's faux science. There is no evidence that say's warmer weather will kill this virus, yet someone just said Louisiana will be better than NY because it's warmer there. I mean, that's just an irresponsible statement to make.
 
Bham 99 said:
You're ignorant for acting smug towards somebody because they were rooting for the USA. Of course we're going to cheer for our own country. And yes we have a better Healthcare System than China which is a communist system.
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I hope you're right because if it's worse here than China when it's over, there will be a lot of egg on our government and health systems face
 
NoSnowATL said:
I’m hoping brother. We all are at this point.


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I’m honestly not hyping this up intentionally or trying to make things sound bleak, there’s so much shuffling going on in the background of my life atm to say I’m very paranoid is an understatement.
 
ryan1234 said:
It's because people refuse to listen to actual science. I don't know if it's to lessen their fears or because ignorance is bliss. Whatever the case is, it's faux science. There is no evidence that say's warmer weather will kill this virus, yet someone just said Louisiana will be better than NY because it's warmer there. I mean, that's just an irresponsible statement to make.
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Have you had real cajun food in La? That stuff can cure cancer locals say.


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Heelyes said:
I hope you're right because if it's worse here than China when it's over, there will be a lot of egg on our government and health systems face
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It could be worse than China for all we know but I kind of doubt it, but I don't know for sure like everybody else knows everything for sure around here.. I know one thing if we're not positive and supporting our own country no telling what would happen.
 
GaWx said:
Italy's median age is 45 vs 38 in US. Also, Italy's pop. is almost 6 times denser and more smoke there. And then there's the wild card of it getting warmer.
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Keep in mind our trajectory curve is the same as Italy's right now. It's hard to explain why especially with our lack of testing? Also, they have more doctors and hospital beds per capita than we do.

I'm not going to say we are going to be worse or better cause no one knows so it sounds arrogant either way. But I think we should take their warnings seriously and do our best to eliminate the chances of it happening here.
 
Trump not saying anything about a national shutdown. So there ya go not happening at the moment


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ryan1234 said:
It's because people refuse to listen to actual science. I don't know if it's to lessen their fears or because ignorance is bliss. Whatever the case is, it's faux science. There is no evidence that say's warmer weather will kill this virus, yet someone just said Louisiana will be better than NY because it's warmer there. I mean, that's just an irresponsible statement to make.
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Are you sure?

 
Jessy89 said:
Trump not saying anything about a national shutdown. So there ya go not happening at the moment


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They’re making small incremental increases to their guidelines. It’s coming soon. They’ve got to bait us in little by little.
 
NoSnowATL said:
I have been to NY and SF and La. We won’t be like Italy. Louisiana will do better the SF and NY since it’s already warm down there.


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Louisiana has seen a rapid increase in cases and have over 100 now and growing pretty quickly.
 
NoSnowATL said:
Warmer temperatures are coming.


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How about Florida who is also seeing a bunch of new cases with temps in the 70-80's and its been like that there for weeks.....there are a lot of mitigating circumstances, mainly that there is no herd immunity or vaccinated population to stifle the spread, so while longer days and warm temps will help some it is not going to be the saving grace folks think it is....the fact the two states in the south with the faster case growth are LA/FL should reflect that IMO.
 
Downeastnc said:
How about Florida who is also seeing a bunch of new cases with temps in the 70-80's and its been like that there for weeks.....there are a lot of mitigating circumstances, mainly that there is no herd immunity or vaccinated population to stifle the spread, so while longer days and warm temps will help some it is not going to be the saving grace folks think it is....the fact the two states in the south with the faster case growth are LA/FL should reflect that IMO.
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The lock down will work in Flordia since it’s vacation season. Lock it down plus warmer temperatures will help I think.


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They clarified: These measures may not stay in effect through July/August. The virus may still be around through July/August. He said specifically, these measures are a 15 day trial period, then we will have a better idea.
 
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