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Misc Cold Season Complaining

We’ve run out of room to do anything. That’s the hard pill 98% of this board is about to have to swallow. We can still expand the NW shield marginally but if this airmass is what they say it is, the cutoff will be sharp
Models has already upped the cold push some from what we were looking at a week ago. We went From looking at 10° lows to now seeing 15-18° Highs in 30s instead of 20s we were looking at. I'm not trying to wishcast here cause I hope we don't get any of that Snow and cold 💩
 
Really wish I had the faith that @rburrel2 did.

I'm slightly intrigued by the short range models, but y'all should've known that there was a big risk of "poof" here with it being very possible as recently as yesterday morning that this general area gets its best pure snow event since Jan 2014.
 
I remember a few days ago when it was stated dozens of times: “suppression is the least of our concerns”View attachment 165509
It was 💀 we don’t lose storms to our south especially with Mickey mouse cold in front of our moisture. My lowest low next week is 18 degrees. Whoopee brrrr I better buy a mink coat
 
If there's one silver lining, atleast the Ukmet has trended towards less precip even for the Gulf Coast. Hopefully other models fall in line. Losing storms to New Orleans or Savannah is far more humiliating than losing storms to Memphis,Little Rock, or even Shreveport.
 
Really wish I had the faith that @rburrel2 did.

I'm slightly intrigued by the short range models, but y'all should've known that there was a big risk of "poof" here with it being very possible as recently as yesterday morning that this general area gets its best pure snow event since Jan 2014.
I would kill to be in your spot right now. I think you do really well. No guarantees of course... but you really can't ask for a much better situation to be in. You don't even have any concern for temps! That's such a luxury, lol.
 
I was being sarcastic but who knows,
I would've have never bet a dime on the last 2 winters being trace amounts back to back.
So at this point who knows!
Glad I was born when I was being a snow lover!
Yeah it'll be hard to fall that far. At least I hope it would, at least in our lifetime! But this decade is 1.8 do far which is actually less than CAE averages smdh
 
I am sure when this storm is over, there will be research papers written on why the global models did so badly and busted too dry. Happens a lot.
Not sure they have done "badly" just correcting along to what's going to actually happen. Now if they are wrong in 'outcomes' you might want to write some reflective analysis on that.
 
Not sure they have done "badly" just correcting along to what's going to actually happen. Now if they are wrong in 'outcomes' you might want to write some reflective analysis on that.

I would never write an analysis about these models.

The report would literally read:
They're all really bad outside 24 hours, use Hi-Res short-range instead.
 
I’m going to keep hating on -- but I’m a fan. Dude is better than good
Maybe for your backyard. We have a NWS map with the 7" chance on it and a local office that says "we have no idea, we wait for short range hi res to come in"
 
When we look back at this winter the CLT/GSP-RDU screw zone will be remembered notoriously
Hell I'm sure these areas have been the screw zone more than once for a winter. But what I can guarantee is it hasn't ever been the screw zone after 2 snowless winters. Why? Because 2 snowless winters had never happened and now we follow it up with this! That's why it's so painful smdh
 
I would never write an analysis about these models.

The report would literally read:
They're all really bad outside 24 hours, use Hi-Res short-range instead.
Or the report could read: Models suck. When's the next storm coming? :cool:
 
Or the report could read: Models suck. When's the next storm coming? :cool:

I've been guilty of always saying "not again" when it comes to these events. I am going to have to do some self-discipline to not look at weather forums and discussion about models until 1-2 days out from now on.

I think part of me, for some reason, liked be able to get what I needed to be prepared before the rush on the stores and all of that. Those days are mostly over with Amazon and now social media posting weather models so far in advance these days.

So hopefully, when this thing inevitably screws everyone over in such a great setup, with just really bad timing, then I can just do what Allan does and just stay away until it's literally on radar about to happen.

Edit:
Phase one is complete. I have removed the NBM shortcut link on my browser and other long range crap models like experimentals etc. They're not needed. I will have everything I need in just the short-range bookmarks.
 
When we look back at this winter the CLT/GSP-RDU screw zone will be remembered notoriously
I was thinking about this yesterday and not sure when it changed. I’m 55 and grew up in Cary and can say I’ve been fortunate to have been through most of the storms we talk about.
Feb ‘73 - don’t remember
Match ‘80
Jan ‘88
March ‘93 - was living in Marietta, Ga
Jan ‘00
Jan ‘02
The first 30 years I saw some great storms but the last 25 has been beyond a snow drought. I did join my first weather forum in the 2006/2007 timeframe so that could have something to do with it. 😂
 
The models were great 5 days out and all the way to verification time for Helene. I knew that Sunday night we were going to be hit, and we were. The models locked in that far out and never made any major changes. They are awful for winter though.
 
I hate the way they advertise this Mickey mouse cold. This is not too cold to snow
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This is the modern day cold standard View attachment 165507
Co2 is much much higher than it was in 2014, 10 years from now a setup like this weeks maybe gets us highs in the 40s only , by then I-81 in Virginia is the new I-20

Plus UHI, just think how much of your area got built up since 2014
 
Trending a little drier for the Gulf Coast. Still will be a very significant for them unless models really trend dry for them at the last minute. Atleast us inland area along I-20 and I-40 corridor are no longer at risk of losing this storm to Savannah or Charleston since they are trending towards cold and dry as well.
 
Rburrel keeping the hope alive. I’ve gotten the white flag and am waiting on the eps before I potentially raise it in the air.
 
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