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Misc 2020/21 Fall and Winter Whamby Thread

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I swear I feel like @Loganelliott99, but the GEFS 1-30 doesn't have a single member with any snow east of the mountains. I don't at all care about the -NAO or +PNA, I just want one really good cold high from a -EPO/-WPO! I'm sick of all this low pressure that floods the US! I'm done ranting.
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Ollie Williams said:
I swear I feel like @Loganelliott99, but the GEFS 1-30 doesn't have a single member with any snow east of the mountains. I don't at all care about the -NAO or +PNA, I just want one really good cold high from a -EPO/-WPO! I'm sick of all this low pressure that floods the US! I'm done ranting.
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Exactly. I just want to see a couple members agree

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Ollie Williams said:
I swear I feel like @Loganelliott99, but the GEFS 1-30 doesn't have a single member with any snow east of the mountains. I don't at all care about the -NAO or +PNA, I just want one really good cold high from a -EPO/-WPO! I'm sick of all this low pressure that floods the US! I'm done ranting.
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I agree. No winterstorm it may as well be 70.
 
Ollie Williams said:
I swear I feel like @Loganelliott99, but the GEFS 1-30 doesn't have a single member with any snow east of the mountains. I don't at all care about the -NAO or +PNA, I just want one really good cold high from a -EPO/-WPO! I'm sick of all this low pressure that floods the US! I'm done ranting.
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I’d rather have a +PNA/-NAO combo anyday, -EPO and -WPO the last few years have introduced the southeast ridge because what they do is dump stuff out west/in the southwest, it’s more likely stuff will pop up over time with a -NAO/+PNA
 
Ollie Williams said:
I swear I feel like @Loganelliott99, but the GEFS 1-30 doesn't have a single member with any snow east of the mountains. I don't at all care about the -NAO or +PNA, I just want one really good cold high from a -EPO/-WPO! I'm sick of all this low pressure that floods the US! I'm done ranting.
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How many GEFS or EPS members consistently showed a significant CAD event this far out for mid Dec? Virtually none lol
 
Myfrotho704_ said:
I’d rather have a +PNA/-NAO combo anyday, -EPO and -WPO the last few years have introduced the southeast ridge because what they do is dump stuff out west/in the southwest, it’s more likely stuff will pop up over time with a -NAO/+PNA
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True, a poorly tilted -EPO is bad, but -EPO +PNA combo gets me excited. I just have a feeling that we're going to get more marginal cold rain events with a neutral EPO, +PNA, -NAO.
 
Ollie Williams said:
True, a poorly tilted -EPO is bad, but -EPO +PNA combo gets me excited. I just have a feeling that we're going to get more marginal cold rain events with a neutral EPO, +PNA, -NAO.
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Imo it wouldn’t be that marginal, nothing like early December anyways
A +PNA in this fashion would dump that arctic air that’s locked over AK before this, and likely would result in much more legit cold since the cold source it’s coming from is actually legit F0118826-AB5E-4FF2-B7EF-F8F7EBC7082B.png
 
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