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Jan. 17-18, 2026 SE Winter Weather Threat

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I know this has been posted, but places in Mobile and Pensacola wasn’t showing snow in recent runs from the Euro. This is the first signs of a NW trend to me. Couple more of those and my area will be in the shaded grey
 
As others have pointed out Euro AI ens was a little more frisky...here is the snow mean ticking up

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Weatherbell's graphics painted a little better picture.
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One big difference I've noticed between the AI models and deterministic models is the timing difference in precipitation. I'd wager that's also influencing temps. The GFS coming in a little later is giving temps a chance to drop overnight. But check out this change in precip arrival on the AIFS:
 

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I can't remember... did December 2017 surprise people on the northern fringe at go time? Like were there some people expecting nothing who got accumulations?
They were still saying an inch or less up until we were north of 3". Ended up with 12" and no power. The NAM was the first to catch on. Snow fell for 26 hours.
 
I’m sure it does for a lot but going to be very difficult for the temps to not be cold for a lot of us back here in central Alabama
I’m right down the road from you Parker, but I am just not seeing it this time around for central AL. Would take one heck of a NW shift now that GFS folded to Euro.
 
I can't remember... did December 2017 surprise people on the northern fringe at go time? Like were there some people expecting nothing who got accumulations?
lol I was eading thru the old forum about that. grit was still the man back then! the HRRRRR picked up on it last minute on the 8th i believe after every other model lost it for the most part.
Edit: the storm came back to mesoscale models on the 7th(the day before). With the 3k nam, hrrr and the rgem leading the way from what im reading
one of your posts burrel
A nice band of snow showing up on the Hi-res NAM around lunchtime Friday up the I-85 corridor in SC. If it plays out like this I think the upstate could get a quick inch or two of snow as the heaviest burst comes through. Both the Hi-res NAM and RGEM are really slow to change over from rain to snow here, which I don't understand looking at the soundings. From what I see we should flip over to snow relatively quickly once rates pick up. We'll find out I guess.

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I’m right down the road from you Parker, but I am just not seeing it this time around for central AL. Would take one heck of a NW shift now that GFS folded to Euro.
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Don’t ever forget 1/28/14 or even 12/8/17. I will say that the models right now look strikingly similar to 1/28/14 and I don’t even think we had a single model on our side then. At least we have the NAM and GFS still not far off.


I looked at the GEFS for Cullman and Huntsville just for fun and they have 5-7 members with accumulation, that is encouraging to see some that far north. I’ve been harping on this storm for awhile, so I’ve got to hang in until it truly is staring me in the face. We are down but not out yet!

That 12z EuroAI shift was fairly substantial but we need quite a few more. Hopeful the 18z NAM is still showing something.
 
Still catching up on this, but I definitely see some limiting factors for central NC. Not only are temps a concern from a P-type standpoint, but they are also a concern from an accumulations standpoint. That combined with the diurnal timing isn’t doing us any favors. Rates will be important. Light snow at 33 degrees at midday just isn’t really going to cut it. I need to check soil temps, too, although at least it’s cooled down the late few days so they may not be terrible. It’s plausible we see 3-5” of snow fall from the sky and only see 1-2” stick.

On the plus side, it’s mid January, not late February.
 
Let's just assume for the sake of conversation that the AIFS/ENS and Euro/ENS are not one run blips with some QPF increases. Wonder if they are just waking up to underdoing precip in general? H5 didn't look any better vs 0z to me, in fact looked worse on both OPs and ENS. Still several members with interesting solutions for many on this board:

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Whats interesting to me is I'd say about half of these are either further northwest or higher QPF than the OP euro.
 

I’m always a little perplexed by the ensemble forecasting. I get the theory and I’m not saying they aren’t useful, but I often see them jump around just as much as their operational counterpart. Pretty sure the GEFS have followed the GFS with every single shift over these last couple days.
 
Foothills region , we are just a little to far away from true moisture source on most models. Plus, the angle in which its coming from is not ideal. Need a negative tilt which is not in the cards at this point. The fight is amongst models is east of here Triad east.
 
Foothills region , we are just a little to far away from true moisture source on most models. Plus, the angle in which its coming from is not ideal. Need a negative tilt which is not in the cards at this point. The fight is amongst models is east of here Triad east.
Keep digging more regardless of the positive tilt and yall will be fine. Much better timing of cold air and precip the further west you are in this setup IMG_2473.gifIMG_2472.gif
 
@jackendrickwx or @bouncycorn or anyone else that has access to Weathernext2 (the Google AI model), is there a more detailed map of accumulations and more regional? Really looked like it was very similar to what the Euro AI was showing
 
Keep digging more regardless of the positive tilt and yall will be fine. Much better timing of cold air and precip the further west you are in this setup View attachment 183834View attachment 183835
Some of the Foothills regions will be but back here in Northern Foothills we are dependent on moisture banking up against the Mountains in these setups
 
im thinking those eps means are actually just rain snow mix at this point here

Eh, it isn't far fetched to think that the ensembles that all show snow are in the mid 30's and ones that aren't are in the 40's for central-south GA and SC (average mean temp at hr 78 is 37-39).

I count several whiffs without trying very hard that may well be rain or sunny/milky skies.

You can see a better precip response as well on the temp map in south GA.
 
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