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HSVweather said:
Current Ukraine government,no, but what if capital falls and the government is relocated somewhere else and Russia plays a narrative proclaiming a pro Russian government then the new government agrees. Not sure the true advantage there if still fighting a strong resistance, with current government still in country just relocated, just thinking out loud for discussion. Russia narrative for Russian media
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True, a new govt will agree to it quickly. Some countries will immediately recognize the new govt while the EU will quietly do it a few months later.
 
superjames1992 said:
I could see Russia moving into Moldova next, but after that the path of least resistance is probably retaking some of the ex-SSRs in Central Asia. Unless Putin is crazy enough to take on NATO itself.
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I have to admit im baffled at what Putin has done though i think as long as he stops at Ukraine he will be fine. I thought he would occupy the 2 eastern prvinces and call it a day.
 
We should not forget the one very important thing. And it brings up ours and Europe's total hypocrisy. The sanctions DO NOT include blocking Russian export of energy. As we speak, or type, now the fighting is going on in Ukraine and we and the europeans are still buying Russian oil and NG. I guess i keep posting this but we AT THIS VERY MOMENT are financing Russia's invasion.
 
lexxnchloe said:
We should not forget the one very important thing. And it brings up ours and Europe's total hypocrisy. The sanctions DO NOT include blocking Russian export of energy. As we speak, or type, now the fighting is going on in Ukraine and we and the europeans are still buying Russian oil and NG. I guess i keep posting this but we AT THIS VERY MOMENT are financing Russia's invasion.
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8% of our oil imports in the US come from Russia also.
 
lexxnchloe said:
We should not forget the one very important thing. And it brings up ours and Europe's total hypocrisy. The sanctions DO NOT include blocking Russian export of energy. As we speak, or type, now the fighting is going on in Ukraine and we and the europeans are still buying Russian oil and NG. I guess i keep posting this but we AT THIS VERY MOMENT are financing Russia's invasion.
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Yep. It's as if Ukraine has been handed to Russia in exchange for energy.
 
lexxnchloe said:
We should not forget the one very important thing. And it brings up ours and Europe's total hypocrisy. The sanctions DO NOT include blocking Russian export of energy. As we speak, or type, now the fighting is going on in Ukraine and we and the europeans are still buying Russian oil and NG. I guess i keep posting this but we AT THIS VERY MOMENT are financing Russia's invasion.
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It sounds really impressive on TV and Radio.....Sanctions = Doing "something"
 
lexxnchloe said:
We should not forget the one very important thing. And it brings up ours and Europe's total hypocrisy. The sanctions DO NOT include blocking Russian export of energy. As we speak, or type, now the fighting is going on in Ukraine and we and the europeans are still buying Russian oil and NG. I guess i keep posting this but we AT THIS VERY MOMENT are financing Russia's invasion.
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We are not buying Russia’s NG. So, NG shouldn’t be lumped in with oil to be accurate about this as regards the US. On the contrary, we are a net exporter of NG with significant LNG exports to Europe that are at record highs for us.

We were near a record high NG production for us just before the January cold hit, which caused a temporary reduction due to freeze-offs.

We are the number one NG producer in the world by far with it being 35% higher than that of Russia:

Global Natural Gas Production | World gas natural statistics | Enerdata

Data on worldwide Natural gas production: select the country to get specific data. Enerdata also provides updated summaries and graphs on the production of Natural Gas.
yearbook.enerdata.net yearbook.enerdata.net
 
lexxnchloe said:
They are a very reliable trading partner. It makes no sense we get any energy from Russia.
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Diversification makes sense usually. Oil imports from Russia started ramping up in 2017 as less was imported from Venezuela. That'll probably change now.
 
While I think it's a valid discussion I think we are getting very close in here to drifting to more political talk so try to keep it focused on the actual events occurring in Ukraine. @Storm5 is supposed to be moderating but seems he is trapped in the market thread or something like that ;)
 
GaWx said:
We are not buying Russia’s NG. So, NG shouldn’t be lumped in with oil to be accurate about this as regards the US. On the contrary, we are a net exporter of NG with significant LNG exports to Europe that are at record highs for us.

We were near a record high NG production for us just before the January cold hit, which caused a temporary reduction due to freeze-offs.

We are the number one NG producer in the world by far with it being 35% higher than that of Russia:

Global Natural Gas Production | World gas natural statistics | Enerdata

Data on worldwide Natural gas production: select the country to get specific data. Enerdata also provides updated summaries and graphs on the production of Natural Gas.
yearbook.enerdata.net yearbook.enerdata.net
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I know we dont buy NG from Russia but Europe does. And in the very long run we could make up for Russian natural gas. But that would require building a new fleet of tankers as well as constructing terminals in Europe.
 
metwannabe said:
While I think it's a valid discussion I think we are getting very close in here to drifting to more political talk so try to keep it focused on the actual events occurring in Ukraine. @Storm5 is supposed to be moderating but seems he is trapped in the market thread or something like that ;)
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NP
 
metwannabe said:
While I think it's a valid discussion I think we are getting very close in here to drifting to more political talk so try to keep it focused on the actual events occurring in Ukraine. @Storm5 is supposed to be moderating but seems he is trapped in the market thread or something like that ;)
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Yes, it is hard to divorce an event like this from political overtones, and so far, with a few exceptions, I personally am quite impressed; actually am getting more facts and info from this lil' ol' weather board than from any pontificating network, spanning everything from FOX to CNN and all in between ... and for that there's one redneck here who is very appreciative ...
 
pcbjr said:
Yes, it is hard to divorce an event like this from political overtones, and so far, with a few exceptions, I personally am quite impressed; actually am getting more facts and info from this lil' ol' weather board than from any pontificating network, spanning everything from FOX to CNN and all in between ... and for that there's one redneck here who is very appreciative ...
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Make that two rednecks if I may add my name to that list ;)
 
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