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Opening up for a civil discourse on this topic with near time updates. This is the 60’s Cuban missile crisis at NATO’s side, I don’t think folks realize it. We will be heading to the Nordic countries for our 2022 vacation. I get Putin, he has a valid point. We overextended on the eastern Flank and Russia will course correct through Ukraine.
 
Opening up for a civil discourse on this topic with near time updates. This is the 60’s Cuban missile crisis at NATO’s side, I don’t think folks realize it. We will be heading to the Nordic countries for our 2022 vacation. I get Putin, he has a valid point. We overextended on the eastern Flank and Russia will course correct through Ukraine.
What countries do you think we overextended on? Are you referring to the Baltics or former Warsaw Pact nations currently in NATO?
 
Gotta love America, Nato, puttin if your in Ukraine. Along with old puttin a deal was made years ago if Ukraine got rid of all those nukes, Russia would let it be and Nato said they would be an ally. Folks forget most of the nuke arsenal of the old USSR was in Ukraine. Worst deal ukraine ever agreed to. Lost all leverage.

I hope Ukraine prevails, but theyll get crushed most likely and Tawain is next. Communism/Socialism is of zero value to the every day common man. Freedom is being attacked all over the globe today like never before. The beacon of freedom,USA , has been the only check and balance to prevent tyrrany from going rogue and not just being isolated to the eastern hemisphere. Sadly there is a growing class of folks in the western hemisphere who value communism/socialism over democracy and FREEDOM.
 
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I was talking to a friend about this earlier & I hope I'm wrong but we could be on the verge of ww3 & that's scary to think about & alot of people don't realize how dangerous the times are right now. If Russia invades Ukraine I have a gut feeling China will make a move on Taiwan & all hell is really going to break loose.
 
The US has surged assets in to Eastern Europe and at last count 14 -747s to Kiev, the tonnage is crazy.

We heard the 22s here in Eastern NC this last week, including F-15s from Johnson.

This appears to be the deployment of 8 from Langley to UAE yesterday.

 
What countries do you think we overextended on? Are you referring to the Baltics or former Warsaw Pact nations currently in NATO?

I think it’s the Baltics, but also NATO as a whole, it expanded rapidly over the past 10-20 years. In the end NATO will be stronger, barring an all out war with Russia which no one wants.
 
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With this being a wx forum and with wx often being a big factor regarding war related decision making (ultimate example may be D Day), does anyone have any thoughts as to how upcoming expected wx in Eastern Europe (per models/forecasts) would play a role during, say, the next week or so? Has anyone seen the Euro and other models? I’d think this would be about as good a place for that kind of discussion.
 
I’m very convinced an invasion is imminent what that entails and how people respond we will have to see but with all this commotion and things going on at the border along with the warnings and canceling of flights going into Ukraine .. I’ve never personally seen anything really like that. Then again I’m also 21 years old so I’ve never really seen war or preparations like that so .. it will be interesting to see how this evolves
 
People overestimate Russian strength . A full scale invasion of Ukrainian is quite an insurmountable task . Then there is actually holding occupied territory .
 
Not a fan of Trump,but I remembered when the media said that Trump would be the one to start WW3 over North Korea/Iran. Meanwhile we are much closer to WW3 under Biden in just a year of his Presidency with the Ukraine/Russia situation than we have ever been under Trump. I have never war mongering on the ether side like this since the Cuban Missle Crisis(before the majority of us were even born). I'm really worried right now and lately I have been more dreams about WW3 starting, which isn't helping with my concerns.
 
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