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iGRXY said:
Russia doesn’t want war with us. We would obliterate them.
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Unfortunately I think know one wins. Russia would use nukes. Then the United States would answer with nukes and millions and millions of people will die. There no winner in that. Plus china would probably get involved to.


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iGRXY said:
Russia doesn’t want war with us. We would obliterate them.
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People have little idea truly how big and advanced the U.S. Military is, and how many strategic advantages the United States possesses, especially in the Pacific (post WW2). Russia is ill-prepared to take on the U.S. on two fronts, especially when you add in the allies who would partake.

Suffice to say that Russia nor China want war with the West but they'll poke the bear anyways.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Man we went from mask protests to war protests overnight. Bipolar world were living in. Need a Prozac bomb dropped on all of us.
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Honestly, it's felt like we were in a trance these last 2 years, sensationalizing the problems that did exist into ones that were bigger than necessary. The Ukraine crisis is about to wake everyone up!
 
BlueRidgeFolklore said:
People have little idea truly how big and advanced the U.S. Military is, and how many strategic advantages the United States possesses, especially in the Pacific (post WW2). Russia is ill-prepared to take on the U.S. on two fronts, especially when you add in the allies who would partake.

Suffice to say that Russia nor China want war with the West but they'll poke the bear anyways.
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People don't understand that the United States made a decision a long time ago that we are okay with having less than stellar healthcare, education, etc. because the majority of our annual budget goes to the military, defense, and homeland security. We have by far the most powerful air force and navy (not even close at that). People love to hate the united states but one thing they know is we would clear pretty much every country on the face of this earth right off the map in under a month. Only China and India from a shear population standpoint have the ground troop capabilities of the US but they are way behind us in technology and air and naval superiority. As far as Nuclear weapons goes, I promise you we would knock out any nuclear weapon out of the sky before it could get 30 feet off the ground. People truly don't realize just how superior the United States Military and capabilities from a production and self sustainability of a nation we really are. We rely on other countries for a lot of manufacturing but we could easily start mass producing our goods again if we had to. We have an abundance of natural resources and oil that we just refuse to tap into from a global environment perspective. But if we had to there's not another nation that could self sustain itself or defend itself like the US can and every country on the face of this earth knows it.
 
iGRXY said:
People don't understand that the United States made a decision a long time ago that we are okay with having less than stellar healthcare, education, etc. because the majority of our annual budget goes to the military, defense, and homeland security. We have by far the most powerful air force and navy (not even close at that). People love to hate the united states but one thing they know is we would clear pretty much every country on the face of this earth right off the map in under a month. Only China and India from a shear population standpoint have the ground troop capabilities of the US but they are way behind us in technology and air and naval superiority. As far as Nuclear weapons goes, I promise you we would knock out any nuclear weapon out of the sky before it could get 30 feet off the ground. People truly don't realize just how superior the United States Military and capabilities from a production and self sustainability of a nation we really are. We rely on other countries for a lot of manufacturing but we could easily start mass producing our goods again if we had to. We have an abundance of natural resources and oil that we just refuse to tap into from a global environment perspective. But if we had to there's not another nation that could self sustain itself or defend itself like the US can and every country on the face of this earth knows it.
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Perhaps but if Russia and China team up together. No telling the outcome of that


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Jessy89 said:
Perhaps but if Russia and China team up together. No telling the outcome of that


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Russia and China together still would get creamed by the US by ourselves. Not to mention the shear amount of allies that we have as well. China and Russia knows if they start a war with us they are going to be on the losing side of it. There's a reason they puff their chest and do all that talking but don't take a swing. They know the US is a different beast than these war torn 2nd and 3rd world countries that they try to bully. At the end of the day nobody can whoop our a$$ and we know it and they know it.
 
iGRXY said:
Russia and China together still would get creamed by the US by ourselves. Not to mention the shear amount of allies that we have as well. China and Russia knows if they start a war with us they are going to be on the losing side of it. There's a reason they puff their chest and do all that talking but don't take a swing. They know the US is a different beast than these war torn 2nd and 3rd world countries that they try to bully. At the end of the day nobody can whoop our a$$ and we know it and they know it.
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Except as I said before if nuclear weapons get involved there is no winners. Just millions and millions of dead people


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Jessy89 said:
Except as I said before if nuclear weapons get involved there is no winners. Just millions and millions of dead people


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And as I said before, the US has homeland defense systems that would take multiple nuclear rockets right out of the sky before they could get 100 feet in the air.
 
Poimen said:
I'm not opposed to this though it would most certainly drag us into direct military conflict.

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I was just getting ready to post this. I wonder if that is part of Putin's definition of "Prevent" he spoke of last night as far as preventing them from doing what they are doing and the consequences being unlike anything seen before.
 
This CNN dude is literally reporting live from Moscow while protestors right behind him are getting carried away by police and thrown into a van. What a world. I’m surprised they’re letting them set up a camera there.
 
superjames1992 said:
This CNN dude is literally reporting live from Moscow while protestors right behind him are getting carried away by police and thrown into a van. What a world. I’m surprised they’re letting them set up a camera there.
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I just saw that. I was thinking the same thing.
 
Philstorm91 said:
Two words: Hypersonic missiles. Russia is so far the only nation fielding these. China and the US aren't far behind. And if direct US allies and the US homeland aren't being threat
Philstorm91 said:
Two words: Hypersonic missiles. Russia is so far the only nation fielding these. China and the US aren't far behind. And if direct US allies and the US homeland aren't being threatened why are we going to put our systems to the test?
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I really wonder how much of a bluff it is though. It's fairly new and might just be a huge bluff but idk. Is there really any test data on accuracy or potential?
I know America's iron dome I think it's called the missle defense dome has been tested and is reliable not 100% though, been used in Israel for some time.
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Jessy89 said:
Unfortunately I think know one wins. Russia would use nukes. Then the United States would answer with nukes and millions and millions of people will die. There no winner in that. Plus china would probably get involved to.


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China isn’t gonna go to war with us or us with them. We need to buy their crap and they need us to buy their crap.
 
I love internet warfare! All the cool things we have, who would win and how it would all go down! I wish it worked like that in actual war where men (and women) with families back home have to carry out these deeds......So many Americans didn't have the stomach for the GWOT. War with Russia and/or China is something you don't want I can assure you. This conflict you are watching unfold now will be painful and we aren't even involved
 
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