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The June Thread 2021

Welp, our "cool down" is coming to a end, lol.

After a high of 86*F today, we're back into the mid 90s through the first part of the weekend (at least).
 
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Dewpoint Dan said:
But there have been many times when Atlanta got the brunt of the cold more than Dallas.
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The magnitude of the cold relative to the averages has never been as great in Atlanta as it has in Dallas . Dallas is just a more extreme climate no matter how we slice this up. East coast climates are a bit more moderated.
 
Lickwx said:
The magnitude of the cold relative to the averages has never been as great in Atlanta as it has in Dallas . Dallas is just a more extreme climate no matter how we slice this up. East coast climates are a bit more moderated.
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Atlanta isn't even an east coast city so I wouldn't include it with east coast climates. Plus there aren't a ton of mountains to the west and northwest of Atlanta to block the cold air like you have in the Carolinas. Most of the mountains are northeast of Atlanta.
 
Dewpoint Dan said:
Atlanta isn't even an east coast city so I wouldn't include it with east coast climates. Plus there aren't a ton of mountains to the west and northwest of Atlanta to block the cold air like you have in the Carolinas. Most of the mountains are northeast of Atlanta.
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True but the location of the cold plays a big role. Also the Rockies help funnel the cold down toward Dallas. The cold air tends to warm and takes longer to travel to Atlanta then to Dallas.
 
NoSnowATL said:
True but the location of the cold plays a big role. Also the Rockies help funnel the cold down toward Dallas. The cold air tends to warm be use it takes longer to travel to Atlanta then to Dallas.
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While the explanation isn’t perfect ( mine isn’t either , this stuff is beyond me for the most part ) you still hit the nail on the head ! Essentially the jet stream is forced into a ridge position normally because of the Rockies . It has to take the path of least resistance so that’s what it does , now as it rounds the Rockies due to its angular momentum ( I guess kinda like coming down a hill ) it dives into a more trough type position normally before rounding out again as it approaches the Appalachian mountains. It’s more of a matter of the further east you are once you are east of the Rockies the more moderate your cold will be. Places in New England and the northeast have warmer record lows than places further south in Kentucky and Tennessee in many instances . Alabama state record low is -27 degrees recorded at an elevation of 700 feet ! Jesus!
 
SouthATLwx said:
Had no idea an ordinary post about today's weather observations and the forecast this week would turn into a ---- measuring contest between Dallas and Atlanta's winter climo.

My bad...
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Nah, it’s not a big deal it’s just scientific discourse ! It’s only a ---- measuring contest if you are looking for a particular answer , and that anwser affects your pride/ self esteem.
 
NickyBGuarantee said:
Wow 70s and low dew points .. such a beautiful day and a stretch of just 80s for another week or so .. if this is what you call summer I’m all for it .. good thing we don’t live in Texas .. or I guess Seattle soon enough .. we swapped the SER with them ?
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Maybe the real heat will hold off until August. I'd rather have heat in August than July because at least mentally I know fall is not too far away in August. Heat in July is just depressing.
 
NickyBGuarantee said:
Wow 70s and low dew points .. such a beautiful day and a stretch of just 80s for another week or so .. if this is what you call summer I’m all for it .. good thing we don’t live in Texas .. or I guess Seattle soon enough .. we swapped the SER with them ?
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The Pacific NW is about to BAKE. Which does not bode well for wildfires out there. It's going to be an ugly summer out west.
 
ryan1234 said:
The Pacific NW is about to BAKE. Which does not bode well for wildfires out there. It's going to be an ugly summer out west.
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Yep with the mjo doing doughnuts in phases 1-2 not much is going to change in the D10-20 range. The western ridge will expand and contract and we will have intermittent periods of bermuda ridge then troughs approaching from the west. If you live in the SE it's a great setup to get average in the means if you live in the west it's hot and dry. I still think that we feel some effects of the western ridging and heat in July and August but it's not impossible this stays our overall setup potentially through fall
 
Yesterday was a nice PNW summer day, high around 80 (27) with DP in the 50s. Got down to 57 (14) this morning.
 
SD said:
Yep with the mjo doing doughnuts in phases 1-2 not much is going to change in the D10-20 range. The western ridge will expand and contract and we will have intermittent periods of bermuda ridge then troughs approaching from the west. If you live in the SE it's a great setup to get average in the means if you live in the west it's hot and dry. I still think that we feel some effects of the western ridging and heat in July and August but it's not impossible this stays our overall setup potentially through fall
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We have been in a largely below average temp regime since December, can't last forever! This pattern is essentially the winter of 13-14 winter pattern.
 
Lickwx said:
We have been in a largely below average temp regime since December, can't last forever! This pattern is essentially the winter of 13-14 winter pattern.
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What if we are entering a new regime where persistent SE ridges aren't the norm? A few months obviously doesn't say much in the grand scheme but 70-90 didn't have much SER, 91-19 did. I'm not sold on the idea but it's something I've kicked around
 
SD said:
What if we are entering a new regime where persistent SE ridges aren't the norm? A few months obviously doesn't say much in the grand scheme but 70-90 didn't have much SER, 91-19 did. I'm not sold on the idea but it's something I've kicked around
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60-90 was the coldest of all cold periods, doubtful we get that. Another cold period was 1900-1920 and that honestly reminds me of this more. Cooler seasons outside of winter mainly. That's if we base it on this year alone.
 
Lickwx said:
60-90 was the coldest of all cold periods, doubtful we get that. Another cold period was 1900-1920 and that honestly reminds me of this more. Cooler seasons outside of winter mainly. That's if we base it on this year alone.
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Yeah I don't think we can get back to like 70s cold barring a major event. The next 24 months or so will be an interesting watch to see how enso evolves and if there will be a feedback on oceanic temps as a whole
 
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