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tramadoc said:
--------. Take your blinders off. There are lots of safety issues. Do you have any idea how long approval for a drug takes? 3-5 years.

There are instances of people getting Bell’s palsy from it. They can get taken off the market if there are high enough incidents of adverse reactions. The testing phase was cut in more than half and clinical trials only lasted 6 months. That’s a problem.
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I know how long drug approvals take as I work in the pharma industry. There are a few incidents out of tens of thousands of people. It's not uncommon. BTW that's not counted as a severe reaction either and in the 4 cases seen they all went away as well. Other than the mRNA vaccines, the rest of them are typical vaccine methods and so they have a long history of safety data on those methods.
 
so diapers are the new things selling out faster than face masks. China has urged air line workers to not enter those tiny bathrooms. Interesting and honestly makes sense I have not used a Walmart bathroom once in this pandemic
 
Steven_1974 said:
I know how long drug approvals take as I work in the pharma industry. There are a few incidents out of tens of thousands of people. It's not uncommon. BTW that's not counted as a severe reaction either and in the 4 cases seen they all went away as well. Other than the mRNA vaccines, the rest of them are typical vaccine methods and so they have a long history of safety data on those methods.
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So what do you do in the pharmaceutical industry?
 
tramadoc said:
--------. Take your blinders off. There are lots of safety issues. Do you have any idea how long approval for a drug takes? 3-5 years.

There are instances of people getting Bell’s palsy from it. They can get taken off the market if there are high enough incidents of adverse reactions. The testing phase was cut in more than half and clinical trials only lasted 6 months. That’s a problem.
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Steven_1974 said:
I work in IT but I have been in the industry for over 20 years. I know what they have to go through for filing for approvals and FDA inspections.
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Do you know pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics? I do.

Edit: Not trying to be rude, I swear. Saying you’re in the pharmaceutical industry, but work in IT is like me saying I’m in pro football, but I actually have a fantasy team.
 
Steven_1974 said:
I work in IT but I have been in the industry for over 20 years. I know what they have to go through for filing for approvals and FDA inspections.
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I work in IT, and I used to work for a Radiology company in and out of several outpatient facilities and hospitals.. I didn't run around telling people I worked in Radiology or the medical field. I worked in IT. Get over yourself.
 
tramadoc said:
Do you know pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics? I do.

Edit: Not trying to be rude, I swear. Saying you’re in the pharmaceutical industry, but work in IT is like me saying I’m in pro football, but I actually have a fantasy team.
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Those are studying what the body does with the drugs and what the drugs do to the body.

I have to go through GMP and FDA compliance stuff every year even being in IT in this industry. So I understand what it takes for our scientists to work on and manufacture the drugs that go through our facility.
 
Steven_1974 said:
Those are studying what the body does with the drugs and what the drugs do to the body.

I have to go through GMP and FDA compliance stuff every year even being in IT in this industry. So I understand what it takes for our scientists to work on and manufacture the drugs that go through our facility.
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I know what they are. I also understand when a product is rushed for approval and short cuts are taken. Less than 9 months from start to finish in a process that normally takes 3-5 years.
 
tramadoc said:
I know what they are. I also understand when a product is rushed for approval and short cuts are taken. Less than 9 months from start to finish in a process that normally takes 3-5 years.
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There have been no shortcuts taken in our plant in the manufacturing process. All the same testing and approvals apply as for anything else we produce and allow a batch to leave our site.
 
Steven_1974 said:
There have been no shortcuts taken in our plant in the manufacturing process. All the same testing and approvals apply as for anything else we produce and allow a batch to leave our site.
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Manufacturing is different than the actual process of creating the drug. You’re dealing with the finished product.
 
Today I got curfew papers to travel for work outside of hours..I doubt anyone be checking lol. They ain’t gonna stop work anytime soon if u essential
 
Steven_1974 said:
You really think fill-finish isn't doing the same procedures? Come on now.
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No I don’t. During the creation of the drug they’re putting different compounds and different chemicals in there to see what might work. They’re not doing that with a finished product during manufacturing.
 
tramadoc said:
No I don’t. During the creation of the drug they’re putting different compounds and different chemicals in there to see what might work. They’re not doing that with a finished product during manufacturing.
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What? We take the process from the lab and scale it up for manufacturing. We're not changing the compounds and chemicals for it. You'd have to validate the process all over again.

Fill finish is just taking the active ingredients and putting them into the vials and final packaging. They are definitely not changing anything.
 
Steven_1974 said:
They went through all the trials pahses they are supposed to go through. Drug manufacturing still has to go through the same regulatory and safety protocols. I work at a place making a vaccine now and nothing is different about our process than we've had for the many other things we manufacture as well.
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Operation warp speed. America at its finest.
 
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