I remember September through mid-October being scorched, which as I said last year, give me a pattern delta, and things might be different in winter. That is happening with more seasonable temps now, although that may just be because of the re-curving Typhoons. Beyond that, last fall, you are correct. I remember tracking winter storms in November, which turned out to be a cold chasing moisture setup.I believe that is what happened last year correct? We had great blocking up until thanksgiving and it all went away for the next three months. Pattern was great for winter (in September through early November.)