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Tropical Hurricane Dorian

Yep it wants to solidify its eye
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That's crazy. When I saw the eye wall collapse on radar I thought we were going to see this struggle a bit until the overnight. I guess not

Starting to get some lightning in the eyewall too.

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That's crazy. When I saw the eye wall collapse on radar I thought we were going to see this struggle a bit until the overnight. I guess not

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Just wait for recon to get to the NE quadrant. The north end they were clocking up around 72 knots at the peak unflagged.
 
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Looks like the legacy gfs kind of splits the difference between the fv and euro

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So kind of a dumb question, what's stopping this storm from becoming way stronger than modeled since PR and Hispaniola are no longer factors? That's my biggest fear with Dorian at the moment.

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So kind of a dumb question, what's stopping this storm from becoming way stronger than modeled since PR and Hispaniola are no longer factors? That's my biggest fear with Dorian at the moment.

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Dry air seems to be the big factor right now

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So kind of a dumb question, what's stopping this storm from becoming way stronger than modeled since PR and Hispaniola are no longer factors? That's my biggest fear with Dorian at the moment.

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Right now dry air, long term nothing modeled. It will become dependant on ERCs.
 
I’m really hugging the euro. You notice that particular model has had not as big of swings. It’s been the most consistent so far.


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Dry air seems to be the big factor right now

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Okay, though that isn't all that calming since even with dry air it managed to intensify so much in a short period of time. Hopefully dry air becomes a bigger and long term hinder for Dorian.

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Okay, though that isn't all that calming since even with dry air it managed to intensify so much in a short period of time. Hopefully dry air becomes a bigger and long term hinder for Dorian.

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yeah with the big ones its usually either dry air or maybe unexpected shear, but usually the ERC's will be the main cause of up and down cycles, the timing can either help or hurt the coast and are impossible to predict

I should mention Michael was sheared and it didn't matter so even shear isn't a guarantee

sometimes(not always) when they get close to the US especially recurving they always get a gulp of dry air but it really just depends
 
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So kind of a dumb question, what's stopping this storm from becoming way stronger than modeled since PR and Hispaniola are no longer factors? That's my biggest fear with Dorian at the moment.

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Not being flippant (and certainly not a "dumb question") ... Nothing is stopping it from getting stronger, or weakening. It's in a good environment, but it really depends now on what track it takes. Central FL would weaken it, if it crosses and gets into the Gulf; then we'd be left to see what remains and if it shot NW or N; the east coast would weaken it if it ran the entire intracoastal; the Gulf would ramp it if it crossed the 'Glades or south of there ... so bottom line ... there is no bottom line yet ...
 
No mincing words, this image shows what Webb has been saying about outflow also within a very deep moisture envelope. This one is a Cat5 landfall threat in South/Central FL.
 

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18z HMON is back to a strong Cat. 1(borderline Cat. 2) hurricane approaching the East/Central FL coastline at hr 99 after that weird 12z run of weakening it to a TS.
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That GFS run could have easily been a Carolina landfall with subtle changes based on how the coast is shaped and it wanting to go due north and stall. Interesting to see if the members show that or out to sea. I’m favoring the EURO right now tho.
Amen.....thought the same thing. Subtle changes that the models don't handle very well.
 
18z HMON has Dorian making landfall between Vero Beach and Palm Bay, FL as a borderline Cat. 1 hurricane.
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