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Misc Winter Whamby 2020, a New Decade

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Poimen said:
GSO is about to enter into the top 5 longest snow-less streaks on record. Hopefully we come nowhere near the longest streak (Dec. '89-Feb. '93)
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Its honestly pretty crazy. It's not like we have been getting some flurries we've gotten nothing. Even some of the duds that I can remember had flurries and car toppers.
 
ColdAMO said:
looks like the upcoming decade is going to be worse than the 90's snow drought.
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That’s a pretty low bar. We just have to avoid getting almost skunked the next 2 years...assuming we goose egg this year.

How funny would that be if we trail the first 3 years of the 90’s come 2 years from now.


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BufordWX said:
Member 18 on the GEFS gives 4 (almost 5) snowstorms for parts of the southeast between January 31 and February 8. I can only imagine the chaos that would occur if that actually happened.
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If only it didn't have the resolution of an Atari. :(
 
SD said:
Its honestly pretty crazy. It's not like we have been getting some flurries we've gotten nothing. Even some of the duds that I can remember had flurries and car toppers.
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Yeap I said that before and I bet it has to do with the warming skewing the mean towards more rain vs snow which was marginal to begin with.


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Happy to have been able to use my new snow shovel this year!


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Snowless & Grumpy said:
How is that possible when CLT has never had a snowless year according to --------? Surely GSO hasn't went 3 years with no measurable snow.
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Don’t know but it’s technically 2 full winters without snow. There was a snow in mid December 1989 and then not again until February ‘93. So, the winters of 90/91 and 91/92 were snowless. This is according to Tim Buckley (local TV met).
 
tramadoc said:
Wait until teenage years. I have three daughters aged 17, 16 (in two weeks), and 14. The oldest’s car’s tranny crapped the bed so she’s been driving my 4X4 truck to school and work (headed to a salvage yard in Knightdale next Friday to get a transmission for her). The middle one wants a truck and is getting her license. The youngest starts drivers education this coming fall. FML
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I have 2 daughters.... 3? God bless you! Lol
 
Poimen said:
Don’t know but it’s technically 2 full winters without snow. There was a snow in mid December 1989 and then not again until February ‘93. So, the winters of 90/91 and 91/92 were snowless. This is according to Tim Buckley (local TV met).
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Wow! Must be true then! GSO must have just been unlucky. GSP had 3.8 in Jan 91. Only a trace in 91-92 so I don't count that. -------- counts a trace as measurable snow in CLT.
 
Snowless & Grumpy said:
Wow! Must be true then! GSO must have just been unlucky. GSP had 3.8 in Jan 91. Only a trace in 91-92 so I don't count that. -------- counts a trace as measurable snow in CLT.
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Even CAE had 0.4 in 90/91 and 0.8 in 91/92! So it seems to have been a stretch of bad luck for Greensboro. But we definitely have a board wide shutout going now for almost 14 months and counting!
 
WxWatch said:
What happens when a short wave trough phases with a long wave trough? The storm system will become stronger right?
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It depends, if it can phase at the right time, then it can get stronger. However, if the tilt is messed up, the wave moves along it too quickly and shears up.
 
Ollie Williams said:
It depends, if it can phase at the right time, then it can get stronger. However, if the tilt is messed up, the wave moves along it too quickly and shears up.
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During the winter, will a phase with a short wave and a long wave trough have implications with temps? surface and upper air? What I'm trying to ask is, will cold air advection happen at a greater rate with a phase?
 
SD said:
Didn't Raleigh just have 2 normal to above normal snowfall winters?
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It only takes one storm and that Dec 2018 was a mess with rain on top of snow which is not normal for this area. It’s usually snow to sleet or freezing drizzle as the dgz loses saturation. We haven’t got anything frozen or freezing in a long time which is very unusual. It’s like all or nothing nowadays. We can have super cold air aloft and be sitting in the 40s with cold rain. It also doesn’t get as cold at night either.


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WxWatch said:
During the winter, will a phase with a short wave and a long wave trough have implications with temps? surface and upper air? What I'm trying to ask is, will cold air advection happen at a greater rate with a phase?
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It really depends on the source of the phase. We need a good source from the northern stream. CAA essentially is by definition cold air moving into a warmer area. By phasing you get cold air being pulled into a suppressed system. If you remember, last December we saw rain from that huge ULL, that was because of the lack of N/S energy. The only real exception to that would be is if the low was so strong, and had a lot of lift in the atmosphere, the ULL could try to propagate cold air down to the surface, but that's not easy to do.
 
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