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Wintry Winter 2024-25 Discussion

Record strong polar vortex likely on the way to open up December. On brand for west qbo winter

I don’t think that’s the worst thing in the world though if we’re headed down the path towards a -EPO/+TNH winter. A strong stratospheric vortex could help anchor the Hudson Bay tropospheric vortex in place later in winter


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If it's pacific dominant, and we get the -epo/wpo, I like our chances. 2013-14 winter, we had +nao/ao alot if I recall correctly. It was definitely pacific dominant.
 
That’s all good and everything but just hit me up when there’s something legit to track. Although as we have all said before eventually things have to snap back the other direction from what we’ve been dealing with. Time will tell if it’s this year.
just spreading a little hopium. We’ve had two snowless winters in a row and as long as records were kept that has never happened. So what are the chances we go three in a row? Gotta be pretty low right?
 
just spreading a little hopium. We’ve had two snowless winters in a row and as long as records were kept that has never happened. So what are the chances we go three in a row? Gotta be pretty low right?
I would say they are low. But we have a record of proving stats wrong in a bad way around here. If it doesn’t snap back our way in the next few years then it could be permanent.
 
It's notable that over the next couple of weeks, the N. American snow cover looks to be quite extensive as we head into meteorological winter.

18z Operational caveats, and of course much of this would have melted in the lower 48 but if it's even in the neighborhood, that's a stark difference from last year's debacle.
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A board wide winter storm would be good😎

That was my issue last year see we got to 5 degrees yes but there was barely any moisture and it really ate up our snow totals. 2 years in a row same setup and we never got a better one(which I thought surely we would considering the cold was before February both years). That's my sole problem right now
 
Man I really like that 12z GFS run. I knows its long range but it's nice to see back to back systems with HPs dropping out of the plains. Wouldn't take much to score a surprise for someone in the SE. Hopefully the trends continue in future runs. I've personally always loved the first ten days of December. That's when the seasons are changing and big systems develop.
 
And the Euro run confirms it. We've got motherf*ing ducks on the pond y'all!
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