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What would Putin need to be offered in negotiations in order to pull out and stop? It’s obvious he feels NATO is a threat. Is there some form of agreement to be made to put Putins mind at ease? Or is this just not gonna end well at all. I still wish negotiations could solve this


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WeatherNC said:
Google has shut down maps traffic layer in Ukraine. Asked geolocation in theater be turned off.

“GOOGLE CONFIRMS IT HAS TEMPORARILY DISABLED GOOGLE MAPS TRAFFIC LAYER, LIVE BUSINESS INFO IN UKRAINE”
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The whole world wants to see Russia lose. I like it. Kudos to them.
 
A little different direction: I wonder what the increase from last week to today (percentage-wise) is, of the viewing/streaming of Rocky IV?


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Jessy89 said:
What would Putin need to be offered in negotiations in order to pull out and stop? It’s obvious he feels NATO is a threat. Is there some form of agreement to be made to put Putins mind at ease? Or is this just not gonna end well at all. I still wish negotiations could solve this


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To be younger. Old man doesn’t care anymore tbh he pushing 70 this is what’s wrong is many countries is…age.
 
Seems like a lot of misinformation going around. The main one I have heard is that Putin is somehow sick, mentally or physically. But who does that potentially benefit? It absolutely benefits Russia in helping keep the west/Nato at bay thinking he just may be "unwell" enough to hit the button. Don't believe a thing I read at face value these days.
 
Thor said:
Seems like a lot of misinformation going around. The main one I have heard is that Putin is somehow sick, mentally or physically. But who does that potentially benefit? It absolutely benefits Russia in helping keep the west/Nato at bay thinking he just may be "unwell" enough to hit the button. Don't believe a thing I read at face value these days.
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Seen a lot of American intelligence saying Putin has changed, even if it's a ploy to trick others it still needs to be accounted for. The man is 69 years old after all, the older you get the sooner health problems find there way to you.
 
Zander98al said:
Seen a lot of American intelligence saying Putin has changed, even if it's a ploy to trick others it still needs to be accounted for.
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Could see Americans pushing this as well to try create insurgency within Russians. Not saying he's not crazy, just saying when the whole world tells me something I tend to look at the why's more and more. Covid should of taught us all that.
 
Shaggy said:
Who are we as a nation if we don't offer meaningful military support to an innocent nation being attacked for no reason? The entire world should be coming down on Russia
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I sympathize with your point but we are avoiding direct conflict with Russia for the same reason we avoided direct conflict with the Soviets for 40+ years of Cold War. Both were afraid it could escalate to the point of the missiles flying.

That’s why we didn’t help Hungary in 56, to use one example of several. No doubt we wanted to, but we couldn’t. And that’s what we’re seeing here in my opinion.
 
Thor said:
Could see Americans pushing this as well to try create insurgency within Russians. Not saying he's not crazy, just saying when the whole world tells me something I tend to look at the why's more and more. Covid should of taught us all that.
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I don't know it gets to the point where you take American intelligence as a grain of the salt. We should be careful in taking American intelligence as gospel, but also still give it significant credit.
 
Shaggy said:
The amazing thing here is that multiple non-military entities have waged a different kind of war against Russia. UPS, PayPal, --, Fifa, Google have all laid the pain down on Russia.
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But China. Never underestimate their ability to backdoor and prop em up. China wants nothing more than to use its new Digi coin to replace Dollar. Has plenty customers in Asia.
 
NCSNOW said:
But China. Never underestimate their ability to backdoor and prop em up. China wants nothing more than to use its new Digi coin to replace Dollar. Has plenty customers in Asia.
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Real simple, quit buying China junk. Also, start making things in other parts of the world. I like U.S.A. myself
 
One way to look at this is Putin is out of good options. The best of the worst for him now is to take Ukraine at any cost so he has something to bargain with. The worst thing for him to do is stop now and have nothing to bargain with. Im anti-war and im a bit uncomfortable with so many warmongers on both sides of the political isle. I mean in the media and congress, not here.
 
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