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WeatherNC said:
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"The Biden administration, and in general the Washington national security apparatus, have been in a reactive mode in regard to Russia," Koffer explained. "Right now, in regards to the current conflict, but also in general. It seems like Putin has been doing things and then we react. We are thinking ‘how do we respond’ but why do we need to respond? Why didn’t we do a deterrent in the first place?
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Amen on deterent. Make matters worse we ought to be arming Tawain to the teeth right now.

Iran just shot 5 missles at us, Russia Invades Ukraine and China is getting ready to plow over Tawain.
They [ our enemies] want stop now,until we stand up to them. How we do that can be debated. But make no bones about it, its not gonna go away,only get worse.
What we did last summer set all this up and emboldened our enemies. Dropping cash, sanctioning, trying to shame these clowns with labels of war crimes [ very appropiate/true] doesnt move the needle in their world. The world doesnt function like America where you slap label tags , words , shame on folks and they get cancelled out.
Ukrainian people are left as sacrificial lambs. My heart bleeds for them. And had we not been so nieve and passive focussing on stuff that doesnt matter, this could, should have been prevented. That Afghanastain Tragic Fiasco was an open invitation.
 
NCSNOW said:
The OODA Loop. Interesting take, observation.

www.foxnews.com

Putin successfully implementing proactive US developed strategy while US lags behind: expert

A former U.S. intelligence official tells Fox News that Russia has embraced a similar plan to an American military concept known as the OODA loop which enables one side to react to unfolding events more rapidly and efficiently than an opponent.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

"If we want to ever beat the Russians we have to flip the tables," Koffler said. "We can’t be in that reactive mode because it doesn’t work. Putin already factored in all the sanctions and sanction-proofed his economy."

Koffler added that the sanctions are hurting the United States more than Putin at this point and that the United States didn’t precalculate how sanctions would hurt the U.S. economy in the long term.
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I agree with you we have been reactive, and that's not a great look leadership wise.

That said--if sanctions are hurting us more than Russia, then why didn't Russia threaten us with sanctions instead of the other way around? If it hurts us more than them, they would have more leverage right? Putin wouldn't have even had to threaten the tough guy with nukes posture he's been doing for the past week. He could have just threatened economic warfare. But he didn't.
 
YetAnotherRDUGuy said:
I agree with you we have been reactive, and that's not a great look leadership wise.

That said--if sanctions are hurting us more than Russia, then why didn't Russia threaten us with sanctions instead of the other way around? If it hurts us more than them, they would have more leverage right? Putin wouldn't have even had to threaten the tough guy with nukes posture he's been doing for the past week. He could have just threatened economic warfare. But he didn't.
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Western sanctions were a clear act of war, no precedence in the modern age.
 
This Russia, China, Iran alliance is , needs to be alarming. Russia using Syria soldiers. Russia getting Iran to antagonize by firing missles at us tonight.
Our Borders have been wide open. Iranian sponsored terror sleeper cells are no doubt inside our country imo. This is all very coordinated possibly by these axis of countries.
 
NCSNOW said:
This Russia, China, Iran alliance is , needs to be alarming. Russia using Syria soldiers. Russia getting Iran to antagonize by firing missles at us tonight.
Our Borders have been wide open. Iranian sponsored terror sleeper cells are no doubt inside our country imo. This is all very coordinated possibly by these axis of countries.
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Before I retired in 2017 we had long shifted our training regiment to a potential China and Russia conflict.....
 
Rain Cold said:
56th warning of bio/chemical/nuclear attacks/false flag, for those keeping score at home. Psychological conditioning is fun.
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Well there were about as many invasion warnings and "not gonna happen" comments but eventually.... I mean I get it's most likely a false flag or whatever we're calling it these days, but it can't be completely ignored and just brushed off either
 
metwannabe said:
Well there were about as many invasion warnings and "not gonna happen" comments but eventually.... I mean I get it's most likely a false flag or whatever we're calling it these days, but it can't be completely ignored and just brushed off either
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Not brushing it off...do we need a daily warning of something that might happen? The answer is no, unless you're waging a narrative-shaping campaign. That's all I'm saying.
 
Rain Cold said:
Not brushing it off...do we need a daily warning of something that might happen? The answer is no, unless you're waging a narrative-shaping campaign. That's all I'm saying.
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Right and as soon as the warnings stop and it happens, there will be questions as to why no warnings. Kinda of a no win here, if Russia is threatening it, it there is any Intel that it may happen, NATO/world leaders/journalists etc are gonna sound the warning and that will in turn get shared here.
 
Rain Cold said:
Not brushing it off...do we need a daily warning of something that might happen? The answer is no, unless you're waging a narrative-shaping campaign. That's all I'm saying.
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Or taking the power of such said false flag attack away from them. What narrative needs to be shaped? That putins already committed war crimes and plans to commit more against Ukraine?
 
Shaggy said:
Or taking the power of such said false flag attack away from them. What narrative needs to be shaped? That putins already committed war crimes and plans to commit more against Ukraine?
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If there are imminent indications of an attack, then sure, it makes sense to warn about it. The narrative shaping is very effective. And yes, that's pretty much what this is. There's no need to warn me about it daily, other than to make me certain that anything bad that happens will be Russia's doing. The people that would benefit from a warning are the people in harm's way. And I'm pretty sure they don't need daily reminders that there might be a WMD attack someday.

If any of those things happen, there will be no doubt in everybody's mind immediately that Russia did it, whether that's true or not. There is a desire for war going on here. The pretext is being laid for it every day. We need to be vigilant of that.
 
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WeatherNC said:
Agree with OSINTtechnical



recap of the Iran noise today

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Honestly we really cant react to much, Iran would just threaten oil supply and then gas prices would shoot up another few dollars at least.....thats why they are doing what they are doing now in large part they know they can get away with it or that our response wont be to large.
 
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