Then again, Fetterman is Machin's replacement, I guess it's possible that he is Sinema's.
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Then again, Fetterman is Machin's replacement, I guess it's possible that he is Sinema's.
Let’s see if the Dems blow this generational opportunity (history says they will) or if they do what they were voted in to do.. which is work for us
Steven_1974
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They can certainly work on both. There needs to be a reckoning for all the illegal things this administration has done so that it can't happen again while also doing things that benefit the country too.
Considering bipartisanship sedates voters and thus empties fundraising coffers and opportunities. I think the answer is obvious.
Steven_1974
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Seems the market likes that some normalcy might be heading back to Washington to put a stop to the bs.
This situation is slightly different. What we have is an entirely new coalition of Democrats who at very minimum will be more independant minded than we're used to. I've been involved in this stuff for years, it's easy to see on the inside. Whether it will turn into actual quality of life improvements I hope so.
I'd caution against reading too much into the soft statements by the current Congressional minority leaders Jeffries and Shumer. Their traditional role (before MAGA anyway) was much more reserved in public with the committee chairs doing most of the hard nosed politics. I personally would not be shocked if Shumer isn't the majority leader next year. Chris Coons has had his name thrown around and there's not exactly pushback from what I've seen/heard.
Something else to look for legislatively is action on "prediction markets" aka degenerate gambling by another name. I don't know if we'll get all the way to a national ban on sports gambling, but Kalshi/Polymarket/etc are on borrowed time.
Last night the GOP got fired. Nothing more nothing less. The Dems didnt get hired. Overwhelming majority of voters still oppose wokeism/ socialist/marxist idealogy.
GOP got handed the olive branch by working class.hispanic voters in 2024 and sat on their tales both chambers for 2 years. Not shocking!
Whats about to happen. Like the GOP, the Dems will overplay their hand. 2 years impeachments / witchhunts to every and all rising conservative threat/ future star etc. Try to bankrupt them so they never run again.
Dems have zero solutions to making things more affordable. Just like GOP in legislative branch. None of them can get their skulls around the fact you have a 40 trillion dollar plus defeceit that is solely responsible for causing inflation. None of them are going to rain in spending and certainly not hold anyone accountable for the theft and corruption they perputrate through these omnibus bills and out through the door into their pockets via usaid/ ukraine/lobbyist/ and a whole list of other mechanisims.
The GOP has to realize that the days of courting the chamber of commerce/ wall street/ rockefeller repubs isnt a recipe for success. The demographics have changed in America. Biggest coalition there is to target is the working class/nuclear family/hispanic voting block. You target that group by getting serious about inflation. Not subscribing to spending taxpayer money into oblivion and expecting the working taxpayer to finance more handouts and waste.
The Dems also need to realize the majority of voters who get up and go to work everyday are past tired of having to forefeit 5 months of their annual wages to pay off just the sum total of all the payroll/state/local and sales taxes that get collected from them. In addition to the Wokeness/Socialism/Islamism.
But I can gurantee you both sides will never figure this out and the spiral will continue. Train ran off the tracks quite a while ago fellows. Its really ashame to, cause my young adult children and grandchildren will be the ones who pay for it all
GOP got handed the olive branch by working class.hispanic voters in 2024 and sat on their tales both chambers for 2 years. Not shocking!
Whats about to happen. Like the GOP, the Dems will overplay their hand. 2 years impeachments / witchhunts to every and all rising conservative threat/ future star etc. Try to bankrupt them so they never run again.
Dems have zero solutions to making things more affordable. Just like GOP in legislative branch. None of them can get their skulls around the fact you have a 40 trillion dollar plus defeceit that is solely responsible for causing inflation. None of them are going to rain in spending and certainly not hold anyone accountable for the theft and corruption they perputrate through these omnibus bills and out through the door into their pockets via usaid/ ukraine/lobbyist/ and a whole list of other mechanisims.
The GOP has to realize that the days of courting the chamber of commerce/ wall street/ rockefeller repubs isnt a recipe for success. The demographics have changed in America. Biggest coalition there is to target is the working class/nuclear family/hispanic voting block. You target that group by getting serious about inflation. Not subscribing to spending taxpayer money into oblivion and expecting the working taxpayer to finance more handouts and waste.
The Dems also need to realize the majority of voters who get up and go to work everyday are past tired of having to forefeit 5 months of their annual wages to pay off just the sum total of all the payroll/state/local and sales taxes that get collected from them. In addition to the Wokeness/Socialism/Islamism.
But I can gurantee you both sides will never figure this out and the spiral will continue. Train ran off the tracks quite a while ago fellows. Its really ashame to, cause my young adult children and grandchildren will be the ones who pay for it all
Sandbar
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To the people who just were elected it is about one thing and one thing only, IMPEACHMENT (Revenge) and that is all they care about. Impeachment, turmoil and chaos just like you are seeing in Europe right now. What most people fail to realize is that it is the system that is the problem. I don't care if you have 2 parties, 3 parties or 2 dozen it's still the same corrupt system and will remain that way until people wake up and fully understand it. If this is what people want this is what they are going to get but Trump isn't going to lay down. He will burn it to the ground which is why I voted for him in the first place so despite the fact that I didn't vote, yesterday was a good day for what I want to see
Downeastnc
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Didn't your insider status also lead you to believe that Kamala Harris would get elected?
All in all, who knows, you may be correct, but logic dictates I'll believe it when I see it much like how much I'll really beleive my Alabama district congressman(who makes a single appearance every two years) really cares about me.
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They know the tariffs are toast come early next year.
I think I hear an echo. Maybe a ghost? Whatever it is, it's meaningless noise from a social media.
Sandbar
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Independent minded......lololol. Yeah that's exactly the description I would use for these "New Democrats"....smh. They will do exactly what they are told to do - Impeach Trump so they can get back to creating programs for the people that we can't afford that don't do anything but make D.C. bigger and more corrupt. Got my popcorn ready to watch the downfall
The problem is when both sides(far left and far right) get tired of being played and join to overthrow everything. That is when things get bad.
GoDuke
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Terrible pic. Looks like he has a walker.
Downeastnc
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Candidate quality goes a long way the dems picked a lot of good ones, the republicans got rid of their good ones and replaced them with Trump boot lickers...easy to see why last night went the way it did.
I wonder how many people will be scraping off the MAGA bumperstickers and burning their MAGA clothing after last night's kick in the pants for Donald Trump and the Republican party he has taken over. Some Republicans are finally starting to express their displeasure at the job he has done as President. I honestly, for the life of me, do not understand why any of the candidates who were running would invite him to speak on the campaign trail on their behalf in any race that was competive. If Trump is the face of the Republican Party, it is time for a facelift.
He seems like a normal very hard working farmer, the likes of which DT had gotten strong support from prior to his tariffs and war. He flipped the typically deep red seat of W NC to blue:
Sandbar
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It's coming so be prepared. I am by no means a doomsday person but all one has to do is look around at the world right now. You hear a lot of talk about a "reset" or a "new world order" and people can and will scoff at such a thing but it's here. I have 80 acres of land so I'm not worried but not everybody has that luxury
mydoortotheworld
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Right. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. If they can tap in to the current trend of populism while seeking justice, they have 2028 locked up.
More or less what we were told was the chances were high one or the other would sweep the swing states and that's exactly what happened. ~120K votes the other way and VP becomes POTUS.
Its the center row thats owned by K street. Not the far right / far left. Anyone who falls for the folly of blaming those 2 are chasing the wrong rabbits.
But to be fair, Ive said this countless times. The whole legislative branch is what has been and will continue to send this country down the tubes. Not the executive ( dont care who is in) and dont blame judicial. Cause the legislative branch is who allows those guys to do all their lone wolf shenigans/ legislate from bench.
As I've said, expand the House for the first time in 97 years to account for population growth and many (not all) of these problems become small potatoes.
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Boy he sure would know alllllll about being a criminal wouldn’t he
Not to be the person that tries to overlook all of the election talk, but we could be sleepwalking into a serious crisis with some of the news being overshadowed right now. A state actor is hacking grocery store chain fridges and blood banks across Europe. Food and blood supply are some things you do not want crippled before more direct warfare begins.
Having smaller districts would force the reps to be more involved instead of hiding in Washington.
There was a pretty good AI-enhanced cyberhacking scare in the last few weeks. Definitely something to watch!
I would almost bet it isn't a state actor. One of the things we were warned about months ago in a cyber security class by cyber security expert in the special forces no less, was that the AI tools available for free online opens the door for anyone such as Iran or the brat down the street.
They would still gerrymander and rig who would be able to run. I think what could change the game is to cut the "vote straight" ticket and make ballots write in only.
Wouldn't that burn some representative tail.
That said, I'm also okay with outlawing every political online and tv ad and actually requiring them to drive around their district to campaign as well.
Well, we did the impossible! We all ended up staying civil despite huge disagreements and with no moderation AFAIK. It got a little heated at most, which is good considering this is an election thread. Credit is due especially to MAGA supporters considering the results. Everyone gets a kudo!
I’ve been elsewhere, where there was rarely a day with civility. So, I really appreciate this.
Well outrage typically requires shock, surprise or perplexity. Honestly, there was none here. Sure, I didn't expect the Democrats to win this many seats especially in redder states, but when the AL governor's race is this close, you absolutely can't deny that the GOP just didn't vote. Which once again, I completely understand. Conservatives were sold an idea and the GOP did GOP things again with that power.
People still vote with their wallet.
Sandbar
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We are 40 trillion dollars in debt. That will be 45 trillion before too long before it goes to 50 trillion and then on up to 60 trillion. People can argue about politics until the cows come home but it's the world that is facing problems. Inflation rates have stabilized in some places but the damage has been done and those prices aren't going back to what they were. On top of that how is AI going to affect the economies worldwide? I have to wonder just how long people actually believe that current governments here and abroad are going to last? I told people here back in 2025 that 2026 was going to be crazy worldwide and I was right. 2027 is going to be worse
Repub's lost due too 3 things..
Gas & Fuel, the Iran War, (that wasn't declared) & Inflation, in addition MEDICAL Care Cost(s),, WHICH WILL, if not reigned in WILL destroy this Nation's Finances..
Recall Trump saying He wouldn't Start *No New Wars*? Yeah that.. Ending the Ukraine/Russia conflict? Yeah, that one also..
Immigration? How's about the H-1b/H4EAD/OPT/CPT/F1 nonsense..
Taking AMERICAN JOBS!
Turning your office into a personal piggy bank for yourself, your son in law, everyone else who you like and screwing the entire remaining population in every hole it has, whether man or beast, does indeed appear to have a price.
Doing nothing about the great health care scam such that a family of three in Alabama gets a $50,000 a year Obamacare quote with a $12,000 deductible on top of it, while a single 63 year old man (myself) gets one that pays zero until you spend $25,000 a year and that's the crappiest one on offer; something that is actually any good is wildly more expensive than that is poor economics and worse politics; telling people to suck it up and hand over all their money for nothing in return doesn't sell.
That the Democrat answer to this is "Medicare for all" is even more-stupid in that shifting that same extraction model into the government will instantly and permanently add $3 more to the deficit and cause your hamburger to instantly be $20/lb at the grocery store but when your butt feels like there's a cactus up it a promise to make it better sells for today even if its a knowing lie.
Trump has had two years to bring criminal charges under 15 USC Chapter 1 and hasn't done it, thus here's the bill for said thievery Mr. President -- you just lost both Houses of Congress! Never mind telling people you're going to take care of the illegal immigration and crime problems and then not doing it by refusing to arrest both landlords and employers under existing law that has been on the books since the 1950s along with the H-1b/H4EAD/OPT/CPT/F1 nonsense by both universities and corporations that in Ohio alone has led to Kroger by itself laying off over 5,000 high-paying IT jobs (I'll bet not one of those people made under $100,000 a year) while moving the entire department that displaced to India.
I'll just stop here..
Gas & Fuel, the Iran War, (that wasn't declared) & Inflation, in addition MEDICAL Care Cost(s),, WHICH WILL, if not reigned in WILL destroy this Nation's Finances..
Recall Trump saying He wouldn't Start *No New Wars*? Yeah that.. Ending the Ukraine/Russia conflict? Yeah, that one also..
Immigration? How's about the H-1b/H4EAD/OPT/CPT/F1 nonsense..
Taking AMERICAN JOBS!
Turning your office into a personal piggy bank for yourself, your son in law, everyone else who you like and screwing the entire remaining population in every hole it has, whether man or beast, does indeed appear to have a price.
Doing nothing about the great health care scam such that a family of three in Alabama gets a $50,000 a year Obamacare quote with a $12,000 deductible on top of it, while a single 63 year old man (myself) gets one that pays zero until you spend $25,000 a year and that's the crappiest one on offer; something that is actually any good is wildly more expensive than that is poor economics and worse politics; telling people to suck it up and hand over all their money for nothing in return doesn't sell.
That the Democrat answer to this is "Medicare for all" is even more-stupid in that shifting that same extraction model into the government will instantly and permanently add $3 more to the deficit and cause your hamburger to instantly be $20/lb at the grocery store but when your butt feels like there's a cactus up it a promise to make it better sells for today even if its a knowing lie.
Trump has had two years to bring criminal charges under 15 USC Chapter 1 and hasn't done it, thus here's the bill for said thievery Mr. President -- you just lost both Houses of Congress! Never mind telling people you're going to take care of the illegal immigration and crime problems and then not doing it by refusing to arrest both landlords and employers under existing law that has been on the books since the 1950s along with the H-1b/H4EAD/OPT/CPT/F1 nonsense by both universities and corporations that in Ohio alone has led to Kroger by itself laying off over 5,000 high-paying IT jobs (I'll bet not one of those people made under $100,000 a year) while moving the entire department that displaced to India.
I'll just stop here..
Downeastnc
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Lol poor guy