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lexxnchloe said:
And just lke that Trump just negates any threats. These arent nice people. If anything they are more raidical and they murdered thousands of protestors

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Yeah, none of this is good. Iran came out of the war in great shape. That regime is going nowhere fast.
 
JHS said:
Yeah, none of this is good. Iran came out of the war in great shape. That regime is going nowhere fast.
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Share control? WTH? Not nearly tough enough



BREAKDOWN: WHY IRAN WALKED AWAY FROM U.S. TALKSAn Iranian MP just revealed what Washington demanded:• Share control over the Strait of Hormuz• Ship out Iran’s 60% enriched uranium• Freeze uranium enrichment for 20 years• Dismantle nuclear infrastructure, including scientific programs• Abandon regional allies• Sign a sweeping Middle East peace deal
 


Here’s the strategy, straight from Trump:• Every ship entering or leaving the Strait can be stopped• No special treatment for allies or friendly countries• No partial access. No exceptions• Countries either get full access, or none at all• Goal: cut off Iran’s ability to profit from oil exportsTrump compared it to Venezuela, but made it clear:“This will be on a higher level.”
 
lexxnchloe said:


Here’s the strategy, straight from Trump:• Every ship entering or leaving the Strait can be stopped• No special treatment for allies or friendly countries• No partial access. No exceptions• Countries either get full access, or none at all• Goal: cut off Iran’s ability to profit from oil exportsTrump compared it to Venezuela, but made it clear:“This will be on a higher level.”
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So we go from Iran blocking the strat to trump. Wonder what trumps asking price will be and how much his family profits from it
 
GaWx said:
Nobody could possibly know where this proposed U.S. blockade of the Strait will take things as it’s way too complex a situation to predict. I describe it as “tremendous uncertainty” after making an already complex situation that much more complex.

I think it is akin to analog based forecasting of wx when there is no similar analog. There is no similar analog in this case imho. This isn’t Venezuela. This may work out well in the end, it may make things much worse, or it may lead to the most likely of somewhere in between. Nobody knows no matter what they say now. But hindsight is 20/20 and I expect many folks will later comment in hindsight (I knew that was a great move or I knew that was a terrible move) however it ends up.

Short term (tactical) US military goals have been met but what’s been highly questionable are longer term (strategic) goals being met. We’ll see how this blockade will affect the strategic landscape.
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Good points. I'm always astounded when people seem very confident in outcomes in these situations when there are so many variables.

Case in point, the US military is now saying it will blockade any ships "entering or departing Iranian ports and coastal areas,” but said it would allow other ships to transit the Strait of Hormuz.
 
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