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Presidential Election 2024

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ForsythSnow said:
I wondering they threw Kamala in to get rid of her too at this point if the early data does favor Trump. At least if Trump wins it'll be the last 4 he can serve so those mad about his constant presence will be at ease in 2028. Just please as a nation let's never go this clownish for candidates again.
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I'll just be happy for the Democrats to stop spamming my phone with text messages.

I've probably blocked 500 different numbers at this point...
 
SimeonNC said:
Question, what would Trump have to do, politically or morally for any of you guys to withdraw your support of him? Like what is the absolute line he would have to cross for you guys to go "Yeah, no" on him.

I'm asking this based off of yesterday when I brought up Trump being held liable for sexual abuse and the non-chalant, "who cares" reactions it got.
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He would need to screw up the economy, have no plan for our debt, show more interest in protecting immigrants than Americans, spend all our money on foreign wars that have nothing to do with us. Etc. Etc. I would gladly not support him if that's the case.

You've been lied to constantly, it's easy to pick out the people that just repeat the media talking points.
 
Thor said:
He would need to screw up the economy, have no plan for our debt, show more interest in protecting immigrants than Americans, spend all our money on foreign wars that have nothing to do with us. Etc. Etc. I would gladly not support him if that's the case.

You've been lied to constantly, it's easy to pick out the people that just repeat the media talking points.
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Well he says hold his beer he's bout to do all that
 
Thor said:
He would need to screw up the economy, have no plan for our debt, show more interest in protecting immigrants than Americans, spend all our money on foreign wars that have nothing to do with us. Etc. Etc. I would gladly not support him if that's the case.

You've been lied to constantly, it's easy to pick out the people that just repeat the media talking points.
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So there was never a civil court case where a jury unanimously held Trump responsible for sexual abuse and defamation? It's all just media talking points?
 
SASQUATCH said:
He would have to send billions to Ukraine, open the borders, call me garbage, etc. There is lots more.
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The framing of the question on its face is a false premise.

If Democrats want people's votes, they have to earn it. Simply screaming "Orange Man, Bad!!!" will only get so much mileage when you don't produce tangible solutions to the issues a huge chunk of the electorate cares about.
 
SimeonNC said:
Question, what would Trump have to do, politically or morally for any of you guys to withdraw your support of him? Like what is the absolute line he would have to cross for you guys to go "Yeah, no" on him.

I'm asking this based off of yesterday when I brought up Trump being held liable for sexual abuse and the non-chalant, "who cares" reactions it got.
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Provide a better alternative from another party.....I've yet to see one.
 
I've been ignoring the spam calls at home and on the cell phone so I have no idea how many political phone calls I have received this year for certain. At work though, the message box there has been full of get the vote out phone calls.
 
weather bubba said:
On the surface it would seem sexist to believe that women voters in 2024 are automatically programmed to vote for Kamala Harris. That is not the case, however, with a gender gap among women of over fifteen points and the heavy emphasis the Democratic party has put on women voter turnout this year with reproductive rights being the number one ballot issue and so many celebrity endorsements from high profile women it is hard not to look at women voters in 2024 with blinders on.
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I will say, a similar assumption was made in 2016 with Hillary Clinton, and Democrats ended up with egg on their face as a significant chunk of women in fact went for Trump.
 
NorthDFWwx said:
I will say, a similar assumption was made in 2016 with Hillary Clinton, and Democrats ended up with egg on their face as a significant chunk of women in fact went for Trump.
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Alots happened between 2016 and now. Trump was an unknown quantity then but his lunacy has been on full display ever since
 
NorthDFWwx said:
The framing of the question on its face is a false premise.

If Democrats want people's votes, they have to earn it. Simply screaming "Orange Man, Bad!!!" will only get so much mileage when you don't produce tangible solutions to the issues a huge chunk of the electorate cares about.
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Pointing out the moral failings of a Presidential candidate is valid. It shouldn't be considered ludicrous not to want an immoral President
 
SimeonNC said:
Pointing out the moral failings of a Presidential candidate is valid. It shouldn't be considered ludicrous not to want an immoral President
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At best, it just dissuades voters like me from voting at all.

So Orange Man bad, fine, I won't vote for him. That being said, what is it that you *CAN* do for me? Because giving you my vote will effectively be me endorsing whatever you do or fail to do, and morally, I don't take that decision lightly.
 
Chattownsnow said:
His politics have been going on since 2015. He literally torpedoed a bi-partisan border bill a couple months ago. Are you saying his politics haven’t had an influence for the last 4-5 years. You can’t be serious?
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Yeah that border bill sucked, in fact, dems offered up something they knew wouldn't pass so they could then claim that maga was the issue. Straight out of your liberal playbook. I find it funny that for the first 3 yrs of the current presidency it was "Bidenomics is working", "inflation is transitory" and "the economy is great look at all the job creation", yada yada yada. Now all of sudden, the economy is bad, middle class is suffering, "hamburger is up 50%" (Harris) but instead of admitting Bidenomics isn't working, instead of admitting that inflation was transitory, instead of talking about constant job creation number adjustments, no, it's Trump's fault, he's still somehow in charge and ruining the economy. It's fascinating the lengths you all will go to spin their failed policies to Trump's fault. Lol
 
RoddyPiper said:
Provide a better alternative from another party.....I've yet to see one.
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I'll provide one from the same party. Lindsey Graham, who unlike Trump has actually made several strong statements towards Putin and Russia in regards to foreign policy. A decorated veteran and an actual respectable person despite my vehement disagreements with his political views
 
Shaggy said:
Alots happened between 2016 and now. Trump was an unknown quantity then but his lunacy has been on full display ever since
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That cuts both ways though.

A lot of pepple also realize Trump wasn't nearly as bad as the fearmongers made him out to be, and they're in many way just as bad or worse off under a Democratic administration (if you're personallly not, good for you for having that privilege).
 
Metwannabe said:
Yeah that border bill sucked, in fact, dems offered up something they knew wouldn't pass so they could then claim that maga was the issue. Straight out of your liberal playbook. I find it funny that for the first 3 yrs of the current presidency it was "Bidenomics is working", "inflation is transitory" and "the economy is great look at all the job creation", yada yada yada. Now all of sudden, the economy is bad, middle class is suffering, "hamburger is up 50%" (Harris) but instead of admitting Bidenomics isn't working, instead of admitting that inflation was transitory, instead of talking about constant job creation number adjustments, no, it's Trump's fault, he's still somehow in charge and ruining the economy. It's fascinating the lengths you all will go to spin their failed policies to Trump's fault. Lol
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It was proposed and supported by republicans though? I mean it’s fine you didn’t like it but it was laid out by republicans and then they are the ones that voted it down after Trump said to. By every standard metric I know of to use (I went to college 4 years for economics, wasn’t and A student though I’ll admit lol), the economy is in really good shape. Whether you choose to believe the stats it is up to you
 
Chattownsnow said:
It was proposed and supported by republicans though? I mean it’s fine you didn’t like it but it was laid out by republicans and then they are the ones that voted it down after Trump said to. By every standard metric I know of to use (I went to college 4 years for economics, wasn’t and A student though I’ll admit lol), the economy is in really good shape. Whether you choose to believe the stats it is up to you
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I don't need economic stats to tell me the economy is "good". Ask any middle class family and they will tell you they can barely afford everyday items, groceries, home repairs, vehicle repairs, energy cost, the list goes on and on. You're claiming something that your very own candidate doesn't claim about the economy. She literally admits prices are too high, in fact, her platform (other than abortion rights) is fixing the economy and addressing high prices.
 
SimeonNC said:
Question, what would Trump have to do, politically or morally for any of you guys to withdraw your support of him? Like what is the absolute line he would have to cross for you guys to go "Yeah, no" on him.

I'm asking this based off of yesterday when I brought up Trump being held liable for sexual abuse and the non-chalant, "who cares" reactions it got.
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What does a liberal have to do to get you not to support them? Comments like “you ain’t black if you don’t vote for me” or “his supporters are garbage” are enough for me.
 
FWIW the people I saw at the voting place here in Chattanooga were way more women than I expected. And not a whole lot of obvious republican looking folks, which means nothing but it’s all I got lol. I for sure didn’t see any dead people voting 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Chattownsnow said:
FWIW the people I saw at the voting place here in Chattanooga were way more women than I expected. And not a whole lot of obvious republican looking folks, which means nothing but it’s all I got lol. I for sure didn’t see any dead people voting 🤷🏻‍♂️
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What?! Lol
 
Chattownsnow said:
It was proposed and supported by republicans though? I mean it’s fine you didn’t like it but it was laid out by republicans and then they are the ones that voted it down after Trump said to. By every standard metric I know of to use (I went to college 4 years for economics, wasn’t and A student though I’ll admit lol), the economy is in really good shape. Whether you choose to believe the stats it is up to you
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But the Democrats could have passed the bill without the Republucans though, since they controlled both houses.

Why didn't they?
 
SimeonNC said:
Pointing out the moral failings of a Presidential candidate is valid. It shouldn't be considered ludicrous not to want an immoral President
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I agree. They were out there, but no one wanted them. You don’t win in politics by appeasing both sides.
 
NorthDFWwx said:
Yeah, that was ridiculous.

Now imagine the outrage if the inverse had been said by a Trump supporter (if you get by drift)...
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Omg the double standard is insane. You said Trump jokes and libs go insane we joke, you go insane. Trump jokes about Nancy pelosi being shot and literally all democrats. Who cares get over it.
 
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