Presidential Election 2024

[KyloG]

Smart companies will continue selling there commercial real estate. Telework is the future. Unfortunately Elon doesn’t like it because it doesn’t help him.

 

[Shaggy]

We see who doesn't have ethics and morals on the high court.

New SCOTUS Leak Reveals Who Didn’t Want Ethics Rules Enforced

The United States Supreme Court revealed what some justices touted as a landmark new ethics code last year. But critics noted that the scandal-plagued institution’s new rules lacked any enforcement mechanisms, making them essentially a 14-page long list of suggestions. A new leak of secret...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Sandbar]

We see who doesn't have ethics and morals on the high court.

New SCOTUS Leak Reveals Who Didn’t Want Ethics Rules Enforced

The United States Supreme Court revealed what some justices touted as a landmark new ethics code last year. But critics noted that the scandal-plagued institution’s new rules lacked any enforcement mechanisms, making them essentially a 14-page long list of suggestions. A new leak of secret...

www.yahoo.com

It's the mean old Republicans! Only leftist, progressive extremist have morals that really matter to leftist, progressive extremist!

 

[LickWx]

Smart companies will continue selling there commercial real estate. Telework is the future. Unfortunately Elon doesn’t like it because it doesn’t help him.

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Office space is not a good business these days. If San Francisco was smart they’d make it easy to convert that space to retail, hotel, and housing

 

[Shaggy]

 

[severestorm]

Eric Adams will work with Trump on violent illegal immigrants

 

[Stormsfury]

No the US has a piss poor work visa program that needs to be reworked, its slow and not adequate to meet the needs of employers in the US...the border bill that Trump had killed addressed that issue...

Look I am all for getting as many illegals verified and legal as possible, but not at the expense of crippling some of our industries. Being here illegally is not some horrible crime, again its literally a misdemeanor. We need to invest money in a system to quickly and fairly process guest workers into this country not build walls and spend billions deporting millions of people only to cripple key US industries.

The immigration system is slow and needs a major upheaval. However, those same said immigrants that came in legally, waited, and eventually became US Citizens the right way earned that right. They cleared background checks, etc.

With that said, illegals should be deported. It'll start with the most dangerous/criminal element first and then work down. Illegals are illegal, and broke the law not doing it the right way. Even legal immigrants want illegal immigration to end... hence why most all the Texas border counties turned red this election cycle.

Contrary to liberal logic, mass deportation isn't going to cripple a workforce. Any one of us suddenly die, your workforce will have your position filled in one week tops.

 

[Stormsfury]

Explain to me how reducing employment in large numbers will not cause inflation?

If you deport 22 million people it is going to crush some industries. For example 70% of Wisconsin dairy workers are immigrants. That's over 2/3rds of the employees so Let's say he deports half of them. You reduce the workforce by a 3rd do you believe milk/dairy production output stays the same? If output falls sharply then that means supply is greatly reduced and that means prices will skyrocket.

You already see large corporations saying expect higher prices because of his proposed tariffs.

I get it that you are excited he won. Your utopian outlook however seems a bit naive to what he is saying and proposing.

Large corporations saying that? Where, must be set up in the countries where proposed tariffs are going to hit?

You are aware that other countries have tariffs on the US, trying to encourage companies to establish their headquarters in other countries?

Are you aware that Trump's first term, when he had Tariffs on China, it was CHINA that absorbed 82% of the tariffs costs, and wasn't subsequently passed on to the US consumer? No. We actually saw corporations bringing back plants back to the US.

Trump threatening tariffs on Mexico and Canada were mere bargaining chips to get their respective leaders in discussions about fixing their respective border problems and cutting off the flow of illegals pouring into the US.

 

[ghost1]

Once again you are making my point. "Not in my world", "Not in my industry" etc.. You live in a pollyanna world and refuse to see the reality right in front of your face.

Every job at my wife's plant has increased every year since they started 4 yrs ago. Both blue and white collar. They have gone from $3M gross sales to $40M and doubled their employment. About to break ground on a second manufacturing facility on the east coast. Even bought a private jet so management won't have to fly commercial so much. She's flying to NC and GA on Thursday in it.

 

[lexxnchloe]

It would be a huge mistake for DeSantis to take this job. I dont doubt he would be an excellent job but stay away from Trump.

 

[severestorm]

Every job at my wife's plant has increased every year since they started 4 yrs ago. Both blue and white collar. They have gone from $3M gross sales to $40M and doubled their employment. About to break ground on a second manufacturing facility on the east coast. Even bought a private jet so management won't have to fly commercial so much. She's flying to NC and GA on Thursday in it.

How much illegals and visa workers you have as a percentage? I worked for a F500 company and the entire floor was Indian visa holders. No Americans.

 

[Shaggy]

Large corporations saying that? Where, must be set up in the countries where proposed tariffs are going to hit?

You are aware that other countries have tariffs on the US, trying to encourage companies to establish their headquarters in other countries?

Are you aware that Trump's first term, when he had Tariffs on China, it was CHINA that absorbed 82% of the tariffs costs, and wasn't subsequently passed on to the US consumer? No. We actually saw corporations bringing back plants back to the US.

Trump threatening tariffs on Mexico and Canada were mere bargaining chips to get their respective leaders in discussions about fixing their respective border problems and cutting off the flow of illegals pouring into the US.

These 4 have already come.out and said it. I'm sure plenty of others are in the same position but just not publicly announcing it.

Trumps first set of tariffs raised household expenses by around $2500 a year

 

[Broken024]

Contrary to liberal logic, mass deportation isn't going to cripple a workforce. Any one of us suddenly die, your workforce will have your position filled in one week tops.

I don’t think mass deportation will happen because it’s logistically impossible. It’ll probably happen at similar rates to what is occurring now (hundreds of thousands per year). Trump will claim victory and point to that number and his supporters will blindly applaud him.

That said, your statement above is just silly. There is a huge difference between one person being replaced and 10s of millions being replaced especially when those millions are concentrated in specific industries. Pulling 10+ million from the labor force in a short time period would absolutely cripple some industries. This isn’t “liberal” logic, it’s just common sense.

 

[Downeastnc]

I don’t think mass deportation will happen because it’s logistically impossible. It’ll probably happen at similar rates to what is occurring now (hundreds of thousands per year). Trump will claim victory and point to that number and his supporters will blindly applaud him.

That said, your statement above is just silly. There is a huge difference between one person being replaced and 10s of millions being replaced especially when those millions are concentrated in specific industries. Pulling 10+ million from the labor force in a short time period would absolutely cripple some industries. This isn’t “liberal” logic, it’s just common sense.

I agree that the mass deportation yammering is probably/hopefully just fluff for the maga's....and when it doesnt happen his followers will find someone to blame other than Trump not delivering on a promise. Still though they might try to do some stuff early on to appear to be delivering on all the rhetoric, but I think enough states and industries will push back to prevent disaster.

 

[ghost1]

How much illegals and visa workers you have as a percentage? I worked for a F500 company and the entire floor was Indian visa holders. No Americans.

They have none but a component of their main product comes from overseas so they anticipate may having to raise their prices to customers if the overseas supplier is hit with tariffs and increases the price on the component

 

[GeorgiaGirl]

Eh, why not...

Hot take just for the heck of it...

Trump won't be successful in getting energy prices lower unless he has recession to help him.

It's a fun hot take because this actually is a bipartisan opinion, I can say for myself that I was thinking about selling DVN in spite of being underwater on it and staying away from oil, but I might well swap it out.

It's also very realistic. Oil companies are saying nah, we're good at the idea of drilling for more oil right now. The idea of drill baby drill, it takes two to tango here.

 

[Thor]

Smart companies will continue selling there commercial real estate. Telework is the future. Unfortunately Elon doesn’t like it because it doesn’t help him.

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This has a lot more to do with what San Francisco has become more than working from home. Sure WFH is a thing but I actually went to San Francisco in the past year, it's awful, and with a billion dollar budget deficit only getting worse.

 

[Sandbar]

These 4 have already come.out and said it. I'm sure plenty of others are in the same position but just not publicly announcing it.

Trumps first set of tariffs raised household expenses by around $2500 a year

Biden's inflation cost our family between 40k-50k for his 4 years in office (roughly 12k a year) and this is just household expenses. That doesn't include the farming expenses. And you are talking about $2500?

 

[Downeastnc]

Sounds like Hegseth on his way out, 2 down a bunch more to go....also DeSantis mentioned as replacement, though he would be a fool to leave his governorship to serve in this clown show of a cabinet.

 

[Skippy The Brat]

Every job at my wife's plant has increased every year since they started 4 yrs ago. Both blue and white collar. They have gone from $3M gross sales to $40M and doubled their employment. About to break ground on a second manufacturing facility on the east coast. Even bought a private jet so management won't have to fly commercial so much. She's flying to NC and GA on Thursday in it.

Good for your wife and the company she works for. That however is not the norm in today’s economy.