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Presidential Election 2024

Skippy The Brat said:
Once again, there are more factors in play here than what you outline. THEY ARE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD NOT BE HERE ILLEGALLY. There are legal ways to bring in this labor and I have outlined those many times on the many iterations of this forum.
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No the US has a piss poor work visa program that needs to be reworked, its slow and not adequate to meet the needs of employers in the US...the border bill that Trump had killed addressed that issue...

Look I am all for getting as many illegals verified and legal as possible, but not at the expense of crippling some of our industries. Being here illegally is not some horrible crime, again its literally a misdemeanor. We need to invest money in a system to quickly and fairly process guest workers into this country not build walls and spend billions deporting millions of people only to cripple key US industries.
 
Downeastnc said:
No the US has a piss poor work visa program that needs to be reworked, its slow and not adequate to meet the needs of employers in the US...the border bill that Trump had killed addressed that issue...

Look I am all for getting as many illegals verified and legal as possible, but not at the expense of crippling some of our industries. Being here illegally is not some horrible crime, again its literally a misdemeanor. We need to invest money in a system to quickly and fairly process guest workers into this country not build walls and spend billions deporting millions of people only to cripple key US industries.
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All that is easy to say from your soap box. What you refuse to see is that it isn't very smart to let these people in unvetted and then say "oh we now need to build a better system around them now that they are here". You have no clue the damage this has caused our country because you have your head stuck up your ass so far you can't see daylight. Pretend you are a mayor for a minute. I dump tens of thousands of people who you have no clue where they came from or who they are, how would you respond to that? Would you be happy with joy? You have to provide services for these people and utilities and schooling not to mention the added load on your police force or EMS or any other service you may provide but you don't think of that stuff because you seem to think you solve these problems with a quick wave of a wand. It's all good though because it's about to be fixed much to your dismay. I suggest you buy a couple cows between you and shaggy so you can milk
 
severestorm said:
Hope Trump can pull it off.


Reminder of Russia's demands:

Russia's demands in the ongoing Ukraine conflict have evolved over time but consistently focus on several key objectives:

  1. Territorial Claims: Russia insists on the recognition of its annexation of Crimea and demands that Ukraine cede control of the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia regions, including areas not currently under Russian control.
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  2. Neutrality and Non-Alignment: Moscow requires Ukraine to abandon its aspirations to join NATO and adopt a neutral status, refraining from any military alliances that Russia perceives as threats.
    PBS

  3. Demilitarization and "Denazification": Russia calls for the reduction of Ukraine's military capabilities and the removal of elements it labels as nationalist or extremist, terms often used by Russia to describe Ukrainian nationalist groups.
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  4. Protection of Russian-Speaking Population: The Kremlin emphasizes the need to safeguard the rights of Russian-speaking individuals in Ukraine, advocating for their cultural and linguistic protections.
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  5. Lifting of Sanctions: Russia seeks the removal of international sanctions imposed due to its actions in Ukraine, viewing them as obstacles to its economic and political interests.
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These demands have been reiterated by Russian officials, including President Vladimir Putin, as conditions for ceasing hostilities and engaging in peace negotiations. However, Ukraine and its allies have largely rejected these terms, considering them infringements on Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/putin-offers-cease-fire-if-ukraine-exits-russian-claimed-areas-and-drops-nato-bid-kyiv-calls-proposal-absurd
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Sounds reasonable. Most people in eastern Ukraine are just fine with Russia
 
Downeastnc said:
No the US has a piss poor work visa program that needs to be reworked, its slow and not adequate to meet the needs of employers in the US...the border bill that Trump had killed addressed that issue...

Look I am all for getting as many illegals verified and legal as possible, but not at the expense of crippling some of our industries. Being here illegally is not some horrible crime, again its literally a misdemeanor. We need to invest money in a system to quickly and fairly process guest workers into this country not build walls and spend billions deporting millions of people only to cripple key US industries.
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No, they are here illegally. They go home period and try to come in legally. I am all for invesing money into a better process in parrallel but they go home.
 
Sandbar said:
All that is easy to say from your soap box. What you refuse to see is that it isn't very smart to let these people in unvetted and then say "oh we now need to build a better system around them now that they are here". You have no clue the damage this has caused our country because you have your head stuck up your ass so far you can't see daylight. Pretend you are a mayor for a minute. I dump tens of thousands of people who you have no clue where they came from or who they are, how would you respond to that? Would you be happy with joy? You have to provide services for these people and utilities and schooling not to mention the added load on your police force or EMS or any other service you may provide but you don't think of that stuff because you seem to think you solve these problems with a quick wave of a wand. It's all good though because it's about to be fixed much to your dismay. I suggest you buy a couple cows between you and shaggy so you can milk
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spot on
 
Shaggy said:
What bout that 18B to Isreal?
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How come you never call out horrible things like FEMA and what they did in Florida and North Carolina? And I know you're going to respond and you're going to say blah blah blah blah blah but everybody knows the truth that reads your stuff on here.
 
Bham 99 said:
How come you never call out horrible things like FEMA and what they did in Florida and North Carolina? And I know you're going to respond and you're going to say blah blah blah blah blah but everybody knows the truth that reads your stuff on here.
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It should go without saying that that was wrong everybody knows that that's wrong except for you guys who listen to Trump threaten to withhold aid from Blue States and celebrate it so no one really cares what your opinion is on what happened with FEMA
 
Shaggy said:
It should go without saying that that was wrong everybody knows that that's wrong except for you guys who listen to Trump threaten to withhold aid from Blue States and celebrate it so no one really cares what your opinion is on what happened with FEMA
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Okay I forgot You're so enlightened.
 
I have a suggestion for mayor adams. Bus them to Chicago




As said in the comments the picture thing is a trick to get close to a person to rob them.
 
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