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Presidential Election 2024

KyloG said:
Yeah, a hybrid work schedule is by far more productive than 5 days in the office and really 5 days at home. I do see value of 2-3 days in the office, giving workers a couple of days at home, if there job allows, has many benefits.

I was WFH for 5 days from 2009-2018, I was in sales and I did travel some.....but I still went in the office 2 days a week just to get out of the house. And then from 2018 until now I am 3 days in the office and 2 days at home and it works well.

Elon is a bully and is only doing this to help himself. He doesn't give a shxt about this country.
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Not to mention that he has conflicts of interest being that he gets large government subsidies and contracts for both Tesla and SpaceX
 
KyloG said:
I think we got off point here...the orginal point was Elon doesn't need to be tweeting out multiple times a day taunting millions of federal workers that he is forcing them back to the office 5 days a week in hopes they quit. That's terrible leadership, bully behavior. And he isn't doing it to help America, he is doing this to help himself and his companies.
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Talking point #234

You have no clue how this is going to turn out, none of us do but he does efficiency for a living as does Vivek and the government needs it because what we are doing now is bankrupting us
 
Shaggy said:
Not to mention that he has conflicts of interest being that he gets large government subsidies and contracts for both Tesla and SpaceX
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So lets see all the conflicts of interest in the current admin you happily voted for......This is normally where you start hemming and hawing and deflecting. If he fixes it good, if he doesn't then you can scream it didn't work
 
The problem with Goverment workers is the lack of accountability. I just finished my 20th employee review this week. Each one I sat in my office, face to face, reading body language, understanding emotions and delivering a message to them individually. We have a hybrid policy. But my team knows at the end of the week the deadlines need to be met no matter where they work. They also know I'm paying attention.
But with the goverment so many just aren't. So many positions are just bodies that join teams meetings 3 hours a day and then disappear the rest of the time. Post Covid with even local Goverments like City of Raleigh. There is one person who signs plans who comes in for 3 hours on Tuesday and Thursday only. We have to make sure to accommodate that limited schedule. The plans for a major city in the United States are held up because they can't be bothered to do their job more than 6 hours a week. It's rampant in Goverment positions. There aren't real deadlines in many cases, the pressure just isn't there. Accountability across the board is needed and remember it's all of OUR money paying for this.
 
Shaggy said:
Not to mention that he has conflicts of interest being that he gets large government subsidies and contracts for both Tesla and SpaceX
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Spoiler Alert Shaggy, there are many on the other side as well that get large government subsidies or positions. i.e. Nancy McNasty's niece getting a chushy 180K plus a year role in our government. Guraranteed she only got that bc of McNasty.
 
LickWx said:
So why did you vote for Trump and Elon? They do not speak for you
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LickWx, I voted that direction this year bc I did not vote that direction in last election and it was a mistake for myself and many in this country. Do I agree with everything he does? Absolutely not, but as I posted yesterday that is the difference between alot of of on this side and others on the left of center side. We can be critical thinkers. We can see when a bad decision is being made on our side and have no problem stating that. Those left of center, continually espouse the handed down talking points and that is it. No critical thinking what so ever.
 
Skippy The Brat said:
LickWx, I voted that direction this year bc I did not vote that direction in last election and it was a mistake for myself and many in this country. Do I agree with everything he does? Absolutely not, but as I posted yesterday that is the difference between alot of of on this side and others on the left of center side. We can be critical thinkers. We can see when a bad decision is being made on our side and have no problem stating that. Those left of center, continually espouse the handed down talking points and that is it. No critical thinking what so ever.
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Yet that isn’t the case for so many on here. To assume an entire side is composed of rational logical thinkers and the other is composed of people incapable of logical thinking is illogical in itself…. I hope you are right and there are those on here capable of calling out the mistakes of those who they voted for, but as we saw in the case of Gaetz many were rabidly defending him, those people now embarrassed won’t admit it
 
Skippy The Brat said:
Spoiler Alert Shaggy, there are many on the other side as well that get large government subsidies or positions. i.e. Nancy McNasty's niece getting a chushy 180K plus a year role in our government. Guraranteed she only got that bc of McNasty.
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Trump is also filling his cabinet with friends and wives of friends . People who are not qualified for the roles they are selected for but happen to be fervent Trump supporters, wealthy donors, or close friends
 
LickWx said:
Yet that isn’t the case for so many on here. To assume an entire side is composed of rational logical thinkers and the other is composed of people incapable of logical thinking is illogical in itself…. I hope you are right and there are those on here capable of calling out the mistakes of those who they voted for, but as we saw in the case of Gaetz many were rabidly defending him, those people now embarrassed won’t admit it
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LickWx that may certainly be the case for some on here but I also saw some on here right of center saying it was a bad pick and that includes myself. Some were also supporting it but also skeptical at the same time so your argument here is not 100 percent logically sound. You are making a blanket statement that is not true. This is a standard operating procedure of those left of center. Making blanket statements that just are not 100 percent true. Now does that sometimes come from those right of center? Absolutely it does, but it happens less frequently.
 
LickWx said:
Trump is also filling his cabinet with friends and wives of friends . People who are not qualified for the roles they are selected for but happen to be fervent Trump supporters, wealthy donors, or close friends
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LickWx, again spoiler alert. WOAT administration was crap full of this. Your argument here is not sound.
 
Skippy The Brat said:
LickWx, again spoiler alert. WOAT administration was crap full of this. Your argument here is not sound.
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That is not what I argued though, I didn’t say it wasn’t. Your deflecting , instead of acknowledging that Trump is doing the same thing you criticized Nancy for, your going “ oh yeah well well Biden does it !”

Mind you I never said Biden didn’t
 
Skippy The Brat said:
LickWx that may certainly be the case for some on here but I also saw some on here right of center saying it was a bad pick and that includes myself. Some were also supporting it but also skeptical at the same time so your argument here is not 100 percent logically sound. You are making a blanket statement that is not true. This is a standard operating procedure of those left of center. Making blanket statements that just are not 100 percent true. Now does that sometimes come from those right of center? Absolutely it does, but it happens less frequently.
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Now that is illogical, you cannot make a statement like that as you have no proof . In fact, it’s a blanket statement. The irony of this post my friend .
 
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