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Presidential Election 2024

So we're just full on scorched earth, political nihilist now? We're just saying f*ck ethics, f*ck morality, literally f*ck all of that and looking past really sus behavior as long as our team is doing it?
You just had 4 years to do this very thing and you didn't so it must not be that big of a deal
 
You just had 4 years to do this very thing and you didn't so it must not be that big of a deal
If Biden pulled any of the ---- Trump and his team are attempting to do, I would be calling them out. I'm not a DNC diehard member, I'm just a dude with principles.

Me hating Trump does not equal me loving Biden or Kamala or even the Dems
 
If Biden pulled any of the ---- Trump and his team are attempting to do, I would be calling them out. I'm not a DNC diehard member, I'm just a dude with principles.

Me hating Trump does not equal me loving Biden or Kamala or even the Dems
No you wouldn't because you had every chance in the world to do it and didn't. Seems your "principles" need some work
 

A lot of you must read crap like this. They want everything, and I mean EVERYTHING abolished in the federal Govt. Basically back to the 1790's if they had their way.
 

A lot of you must read crap like this. They want everything, and I mean EVERYTHING abolished in the federal Govt. Basically back to the 1790's if they had their way.
A lot of GOPers seemingly didn't pay attention in their history and civics classes when they went over why the articles of confederation failed.
 
Obviously, I'm all for free speech (I will defend one's right to express an opinion til death, no mstter hpw stupid it is) and I'm not a mod so I can't control what happens.

That said, it's wild to me that people who harbor so much disdain for the primary audience in the room insist upon sticking aroumd and stirring the pot with their contrarian points, instead of finding a community with plenty of other people who agree with them (such as "that *OTHER* forum").

Honest to goodness, it's giving either troll or mental illness (maybe even a little bit of both).
 
Obviously, I'm all for free speech (I will defend one's right to express an opinion til death, no mstter hpw stupid it is) and I'm not a mod so I can't control what happens.

That said, it's wild to me that people who harbor so much disdain for the primary audience in the room insist upon sticking aroumd and stirring the pot with their contrarian points, instead of finding a community with plenty of other people who agree with them (such as "that *OTHER* forum").

Honest to goodness, it's giving either troll or mental illness (maybe even a little bit of both).
You will go the rest of your life and not find people as F'd up as those with TDS. I have never seen anything else that compares
 
Dems reducing Trump's win to "his supporters are human garbage who have no ethics or morals" is the exact reason why they lost and will continue to lose...
the loss is because of the ones who compromised their morals and ethics.......do you know how many people i personally know say "i dont support the man he is" ?

they saw all his immoral behavior. His fraud and they ignored it. Yea at some point that is gonna get called out.
 
You will go the rest of your life and not find people as F'd up as those with TDS. I have never seen anything else that compares
Apparently you haven't paid attention to trumpers. Watching them at his rallies make utter fools.of themselves has been comedy gold.for 8 years.
 
MeanWhile..

Democrat Congressmen Wiley Nickel is openly Discussing Creating a Shadow Government to Undermine Donald Trump

Hes openly admitting theyre going to commit treason

Adam Schiff - Shadow AG
Jahana Hayes - Shadow Education Secretary
Greg Meeks - Shadow Sec of State
Michael Bennet - Shadow Treasury Secretary
Suzan Delbene - Commerce Secretary
Adam Smith - Shadow Defense Secretary
Tammy Duckworth - Shadow VA sabotage
Kathy Castor - Shadow EPA sabotage
Rosa DeLauro - Shadow Secretary of Health and Human Services

 
the loss is because of the ones who compromised their morals and ethics.......do you know how many people i personally know say "i dont support the man he is" ?

they saw all his immoral behavior. His fraud and they ignored it. Yea at some point that is gonna get called out.

Then maybe Dems should run a Populist equivalent to Trump on the left that does have "morals" and "ethics"...

....OOPS!!! My bad! I forgot, the neoliberal base of the Democratic Party instead chose to knee cap that guy *TWICE*.

Never mind!
 
MeanWhile..

Democrat Congressmen Wiley Nickel is openly Discussing Creating a Shadow Government to Undermine Donald Trump

Hes openly admitting theyre going to commit treason

Adam Schiff - Shadow AG
Jahana Hayes - Shadow Education Secretary
Greg Meeks - Shadow Sec of State
Michael Bennet - Shadow Treasury Secretary
Suzan Delbene - Commerce Secretary
Adam Smith - Shadow Defense Secretary
Tammy Duckworth - Shadow VA sabotage
Kathy Castor - Shadow EPA sabotage
Rosa DeLauro - Shadow Secretary of Health and Human Services


Thank you for bringing attention to this, I had just heard something about it today. I have to sift through all the rampant bleeding in here about fake morality to get to some posts with credence.
 
It looks like its going to end up 220-215 in the house. Take 3 seats from that for trumps 3 house takeaways and its 217-215. Even 220-215 was going to be hard to get anything thru as dems will be a solid 215 no on everything. 217-215 makes Jeffries the real Speaker. Too bad Gaetz simply hadnt run in Nov then another rep would have easily won the seat on nov 05.
 
MeanWhile..

Democrat Congressmen Wiley Nickel is openly Discussing Creating a Shadow Government to Undermine Donald Trump

Hes openly admitting theyre going to commit treason

Adam Schiff - Shadow AG
Jahana Hayes - Shadow Education Secretary
Greg Meeks - Shadow Sec of State
Michael Bennet - Shadow Treasury Secretary
Suzan Delbene - Commerce Secretary
Adam Smith - Shadow Defense Secretary
Tammy Duckworth - Shadow VA sabotage
Kathy Castor - Shadow EPA sabotage
Rosa DeLauro - Shadow Secretary of Health and Human Services


Members of a shadow cabinet have no executive power. It is the shadow cabinet's responsibility to scrutinise the policies and actions of the government, as well as to offer alternative policies.
All he's doing is creating a team to pretty much be like "no, stop" towards Trump in his cabinet. There's no "treason" being attempted lol
 
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