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Presidential Election 2024

Stormsfury said:
I could post hundred of links that it was a hoax.
CBS reported it 5 years ago, Mueller Report found NO evidence of collusion.
Even the NYT admitted they got it wrong with the Russia Collusion Story.

But this one from sky news Australia is pretty much gold.

also Adam Schiff was censured because of perpetuating this hoax.

Holy crap..even Al Jazeera English news Channel reported it as a failed narrative lol

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And they call us deniers
 
Avalanche said:
Like confusing kids on what a man and a woman is, or which one gives birth?
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Why do you people always pivot to the trans issue? Trans people are a tiny fraction of the population?

And yes, "confusing kids" is less morally wrong than sexual abuse or statutory r*pe
 
Like a person not identifying with their biological sex/assigned gender and wanting to dress differently, be referred to using different pronouns, ect. legit does not harm anyone lol. Yet conservatives are endlessly triggered by trans people simply existing
 
SimeonNC said:
Unironically socialists seem to have a way better moral compass than the GOP these days
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Too bad, socialism has failed 100% of the time.. which leads to mass genocide of its people. Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Castro...

To add, spare me the argument, it's never been tried correctly. The socialism experiment worked exactly as intended. One rich leader, masses poor and subservient to said rich leader
 
SimeonNC said:
Why do you people always pivot to the trans issue? Trans people are a tiny fraction of the population?

And yes, "confusing kids" is less morally wrong than sexual abuse or statutory r*pe
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If a 7 year old can talk a 30 year old into chopping his penis off they both need to go get some needed help. In the common sense world waiting to 18 to mutilate your body seems to be the wise play. It's clear that something is in the water that needs to be cleaned up
 
SimeonNC said:
Like a person not identifying with their biological sex/assigned gender and wanting to dress differently, be referred to using different pronouns, ect. legit does not harm anyone lol. Yet conservatives are endlessly triggered by trans people simply existing
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We are protecting children not constricting adults. You folks can't seem to grasp that no matter how many dozens of times we tell you. It's almost as if you people can't read
 
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SimeonNC said:
Why do you people always pivot to the trans issue? Trans people are a tiny fraction of the population?

And yes, "confusing kids" is less morally wrong than sexual abuse or statutory r*pe
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Trans people may be a tiny part of the population, but Dems (or at least the most fervent/vocal part of its neoliberal base) has made it one of the top issues in the party's agenda...
 
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NorthDFWwx said:
Trans people my be a tiny part of the population, but Dems (or at least the most fervant/vocal part of its neoliberal base) has made it one of the top issues in the party's agenda...
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I would love to know how much $$$ they spent on just abortion ads and this transgender nonsense. Progressives live in this world where your normal, everyday person doesn't seem to exist. When they speak about doing things for "all of America" I struggle to understand just who that really is outside of the inner city utopian dumpsters they have created. It's obvious to most of us that their message was just roundly rejected but they seem to want to ignorantly stick with it.
 
SimeonNC said:
Like a person not identifying with their biological sex/assigned gender and wanting to dress differently, be referred to using different pronouns, ect. legit does not harm anyone lol. Yet conservatives are endlessly triggered by trans people simply existing
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We dont have any issue with Trans. To each his own, freedom of choice etc. Issue is when you legislate, indoctrinate everyone to subscribe and participate in your lifestyle with pronouns, celebrations in the school house, workplace etc.
Thats where the red line is drawn. Just like you don't want the 10 commandments posted, nativity scenes in front of public buildings, school prayer etc,
You be you, but don't demand I subscribe to your lifestyle. That's what changed starting in 2020 and where progressives shot themselves in the foot. Also why you just got swept out of power this past election.
 
Sandbar said:
I would love to know how much $$$ they spent on just abortion ads and this transgender nonsense. Progressives live in this world where your normal, everyday person doesn't seem to exist. When they speak about doing things for "all of America" I struggle to understand just who that really is outside of the inner city utopian dumpsters they have created. It's obvious to most of us that their message was just roundly rejected but they seem to want to ignorantly stick with it.
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Respectfully, please don't lump us real progressives (those of us who are focused on class consciousness) together with the identity politics / SJW base of the Democratic Party.

We're equally as frustrated with them, because these are wedge issues only further divide us from addressing the real/legitimate issues, which is the decline in the standard of living for lower/middle class Americans and how much harder upward mobility has gotten due to historically obscene wealth inequality.
 
NorthDFWwx said:
Respectfully, please don't lump us real progressives (those of us who are focused on class consciousness) together with the identity politics / SJW base of the Democratic Party.

We're equally as frustrated with them, because these are wedge issues only further divide us from addressing the real/legitimate issues, which is the decline in the standard of living for lower/middle class Americans and how much harder upward mobility has gotten due to historically obscene wealth inequality.
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I've been saying for months that this election was not left versus right. It's totally different paradigm now. The left and the right from a classical sense have much more in common than what's going on now between the both sides.
 
NorthDFWwx said:
Respectfully, please don't lump us real progressives (those of us who are focused on class consciousness) together with the identity politics / SJW base of the Democratic Party.

We're equally as frustrated with them, because these are wedge issues only further divide us from addressing the real/legitimate issues, which is the decline in the standard of living for lower/middle class Americans and how much harder upward mobility has gotten due to historically obscene wealth inequality.
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My apologies......

Liberal progressives
 
Thank you trump for working to get Jeffries to be the Speaker by taking 3 votes from the House. Another seat is now gone as the Dem in Oregon has defeated the incumbent rep. 4 seats down now. Looks like 218-215 will end up as the margin though 1 more dem winning a rep seat in CA and its 217-216 which is very possible. Reps simply cant get anything thru the House now making Jeffries the real Speaker.


 
Its still possible dems take everything remaining and its 217-217 with Gaetz seat vacant as Waltz and Stefanik havent resigned yet. I would hope someone can tell trump his agenda is totally dead unless he rescinds the job offers to Waltz and Stefanik
 
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