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Presidential Election 2024

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$alt said:
Truth social is a good example of something that is likely to fail. It was launched at a time that censorship on social media was a big deal.

Elon buying Twitter in retrospect, actually hurt any chance truth social had to get any major market share.

It's his product and he owns the majority stock. It's going to fail.

Do I think he doesn't know what he's doing because of it? No. He saw an opportunity to make an alternative social media network to the others. Everyone acted like they wanted it, too.

The fact is, the giants like Facebook and Twitter have been around so long, that even Trump and censorship can't dethrone them as it currently stands.
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True he won’t have the lion’s share of the marketplace there, but the question that remains can the niche market be enough for it to remain marketable? If not marketable worthy of its continuance?
 
NorthDFWwx said:
So I'll level with you...

I think the high / broadstroke Tariffs Trump has discussed are merely a political talking point to appease swing voters in the Rust Belt. And per polling, it's working well enough that he has a real shot at flipping all 3 blue wall states again.

But realistically, if he wins, we'll probably just see a continuation of what he did in his first term

And to be fair, I feel the same way about Kamala's price controls proposal.
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You don’t think she will attack the free market with price control regulations?
 
Avalanche said:
True he won’t have the lion’s share of the marketplace there, but the question that remains can the niche market be enough for it to remain marketable? If not marketable worthy of its continuance?
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Not with Elon buying Twitter, I don't think so.

Trump is stuck with the majority share bouncing between 2-3 billion losses and gains every other week. Not a great situation for him to be in. But if he sells off, the company completely dies.
 
Sandbar said:
Do you know why nobody F'd with us when Trump was president? Because they know he doesn't BS. Tariffs can work the same way
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$alt said:
A billionaire letting companies that aren't as profitable as they should be crash and burn for tax write offs is part of understanding what he is doing.

Why try to save a sinking ship and pay taxes when you can claim it as a loss instead?
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The man bankrupted a casino…. A CASINO!!!! It helps to also inflate the cost of said properties when writing off the losses in taxes while also deflating the value while you own them each year on your tax claims. You know, like he did with all his properties in New York and was found liable of FRAUD by a jury of his peers for doing just that. You may be on to something there! Now THAT is smart if you don’t get caught! Boy oh boy that sounds like someone I want running my country!
 
NorthDFWwx said:
So I'll level with you...

I think the high / broadstroke Tariffs Trump has discussed are merely a political talking point to appease swing voters in the Rust Belt. And per polling, it's working well enough that he has a real shot at flipping all 3 blue wall states again.

But realistically, if he wins, we'll probably just see a continuation of what he did in his first term

And to be fair, I feel the same way about Kamala's price controls proposal.
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So he thinks his voters are stupid. Got it
 
ForsythSnow said:
There were two pointless wars initiated that the US stuck their hands in during Biden's presidency
Inflation was not resolved and the national housing situation is an ignored nightmare
Money is going to the wrong places in high amounts, and everyone suffers under these plans Kamala wants who wishes to ever retire and not return to work.

I don't see how that's better than a slighter tank to our economy that MUST happen under any circumstance. Reality check is we are headed for a recession worldwide and there's an option that won't crush us here as badly.
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We weathered inflation better than most industrialized countries. All of these things are world wide problems not just the USA. Did Biden screw up all this for the world somehow also? I don’t think it’s a coincidence that a lot of the places that faired the worst from these problems were ones run by far right wing administrations like Venezuela ect.
 
Chattownsnow said:
We weathered inflation better than most industrialized countries. All of these things are world wide problems not just the USA. Did Biden screw up all this for the world somehow also? I don’t think it’s a coincidence that a lot of the places that faired the worst from these problems were ones run by far right wing administrations like Venezuela ect.
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Yes, the Harris/Biden administration screwed up the entire world.
 
Bham 99 said:
Talk about revving up an economy... Taking away all federal income tax... That would be huge.
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About 40% of households pay little to no federal income taxes. Tariffs would indirectly increase taxes on them while decreasing taxes on the wealthy. Why is this good?
 
Rain Cold said:
Yes, the Harris/Biden administration screwed up the entire world.
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Excellent point and well thought out argument. Just like every rebuttal to what I’ve said. The clown emojis and thumb downs have been excellent points and hard to argue against but I’m doing my best. You guys are really giving me a tough time backing up my point of view with your amazing counter arguments…
 
Chattownsnow said:
We weathered inflation better than most industrialized countries. All of these things are world wide problems not just the USA. Did Biden screw up all this for the world somehow also? I don’t think it’s a coincidence that a lot of the places that faired the worst from these problems were ones run by far right wing administrations like Venezuela ect.
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Housing nationwide is a nightmare currently and got way worse. Us being in two different parts of the world aiding wars isn't helping either. Throwing money at it won't help like Harris thinks it will, it'll just cause it to go up like covid stimulus made inflation extreme. The key is regulating the market which neither wants to do but at least there won't be more handouts that bite us harder later.
 
Trump increased the national debt more than any president in history… by a WIDE margin. You want someone to blame for inflation you might want to start with that. I’m sure I’ll get clown imojis and thumbs down with crickets again but the truth is very inconvenient and deafening in an echo chamber
ForsythSnow said:
Housing nationwide is a nightmare currently and got way worse. Us being in two different parts of the world aiding wars isn't helping either. Throwing money at it won't help like Harris thinks it will, it'll just cause it to go up like covid stimulus made inflation extreme. The key is regulating the market which neither wants to do but at least there won't be more handouts that bite us harder later.
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ForsythSnow said:
Housing nationwide is a nightmare currently and got way worse. Us being in two different parts of the world aiding wars isn't helping either. Throwing money at it won't help like Harris thinks it will, it'll just cause it to go up like covid stimulus made inflation extreme. The key is regulating the market which neither wants to do but at least there won't be more handouts that bite us harder later.
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Why. Why is housing a nightmare. For once I’ll let someone explain how Harris and Biden did that. I’ll wait
 
Chattownsnow said:
Trump increased the national debt more than any president in history… by a WIDE margin.
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Wrong...

In fact, Obama increased the National Debt more than Trump.

www.investopedia.com

U.S. Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

The national debt has increased under most U.S. presidents. Here is how much each president's time in office added to the U.S. debt by percentage and dollar amounts.
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Chattownsnow said:
Why. Why is housing a nightmare. For once I’ll let someone explain how Harris and Biden did that. I’ll wait
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NorthDFWwx said:
The question is, what has the Biden/Harris Administration done to address this issue over the past 4 years?
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The above is part of the answer, but housing costs have risen drastically as have rent costs. I shouldn't be able to buy a house destroyed by a fire for the price my parents bought a house 18 years ago that's smaller, in a worse area, and is a teardown. Liberals tend to speak about more affordable housing options and with a large amount of power, they have not moved to stop investment companies from taking over metro areas such as Atlanta making them as bad as those who fund these companies. Harris will continue the same policies Biden did and this will lead to more foreign investors and non foreign investors taking land from Americans and renting them out for high costs like they already are. At least under Trump the foreign investors will be most likely to pull out due to his stance on foreign affairs in our nation.

A part of it is local but nationally we need to declare mass real estate investment companies to be a violation of our laws by creating artificial local monopolies to drive prices up.

Instead of our funds going out of the country or attention diverted to useless things, we need to focus on home, which seems to be all talk on the left.
 
NorthDFWwx said:
Wrong...

In fact, Obama increased the National Debt more than Trump.

www.investopedia.com

U.S. Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

The national debt has increased under most U.S. presidents. Here is how much each president's time in office added to the U.S. debt by percentage and dollar amounts.
www.investopedia.com www.investopedia.com

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I think you forget Trump was president for 4 years. I may be mistaken but Obama was president for 8. How much debt did Obama add in his first 4 years?? I’ll wait
 
If trump can do all the things that I’ve heard he is going to do, during my football weekend, why didn’t he do them from 2017-2021?? Just curious. Was it great those years I must have forgotten? And is the country that bad off? It wasn’t Friday when I was at work…
 
Chattownsnow said:
Are you really going to argue that 8 years of Obama spending should count the same as 4 years of Trump spending? Like really?
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You said:

"Trump increased the national debt more than any president in history… by a WIDE margin."

^^^And that was a bold face lie. Just own up to the mistake...
 
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